DeSantis blocks funds because sports team tweeted something he doesn’t like
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jun/03/ron-desantis-blocks-funds-tampa-bay-rays-gun-safety
The Tempa Rays tweeted about guns after the Uvalde school shooting, and DeSantis blocked funds for their stadium.
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“Companies are free to engage or not engage with whatever discourse they want, but clearly it’s inappropriate to be doing tax dollars for professional sports stadiums. It’s also inappropriate to subsidize political activism of a private corporation.”
Yup, good for him.
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Yeah, it’s a step too far, but after seeing the companies that boycotted Georgia over a voter rights bill that was actually pretty tame and less restrictive than many other states, after seeing the corporate blowback against North Carolina for saying guys shouldn’t be peeing in the ladies restroom, and more… Yeah, I think it’s time for a little pushback against the corporate activism…
The Brad
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Yeah, it’s a step too far, but after seeing the companies that boycotted Georgia over a voter rights bill that was actually pretty tame and less restrictive than many other states, after seeing the corporate blowback against North Carolina for saying guys shouldn’t be peeing in the ladies restroom, and more… Yeah, I think it’s time for a little pushback against the corporate activism…
@LuFins-Dad said in DeSantis blocks funds because sports team tweeted something he doesn’t like:
... I think it’s time for a little pushback against the corporate activism…
No, what you term "corporate activism" here is First Amendment protected speech. Individuals and private entities can "push back" if they want, but the state cannot. It is unconstitutional for the state to punish a private entity for the content of its speech.
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The punishment is the key fact. Doesn’t matter if the person was not by rights entitled to the thing that was taken away (eg promotion, contract). And yes there’s precedent.
Not to say it's a slam dunk - today's court is quite different from previous ones. Although I would imagine they fancy themselves strong on first amendment protections as well as suspicious of government overreach, they may turn out to be simple partisans behind all the prose and pageantry.
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I’m just curious, are there any conservatives here that are against this ? And the Disney thing?
For the purposes of my question, answers like “I would normally be against it, but the libs have gone too far, so…” don’t count as being against it.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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Has DeSantis supported public monies for pro sports in the past? It seems to me the media is drawing a connection that may or may not be true.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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The punishment is the key fact. Doesn’t matter if the person was not by rights entitled to the thing that was taken away (eg promotion, contract). And yes there’s precedent.
Not to say it's a slam dunk - today's court is quite different from previous ones. Although I would imagine they fancy themselves strong on first amendment protections as well as suspicious of government overreach, they may turn out to be simple partisans behind all the prose and pageantry.
@jon-nyc said in DeSantis blocks funds because sports team tweeted something he doesn’t like:
The punishment is the key fact. Doesn’t matter if the person was not by rights entitled to the thing that was taken away (eg promotion, contract). And yes there’s precedent.
Not to say it's a slam dunk - today's court is quite different from previous ones. Although I would imagine they fancy themselves strong on first amendment protections as well as suspicious of government overreach, they may turn out to be simple partisans behind all the prose and pageantry.
So it's clearly unconstitutional, open and shut because precedent, but the supreme court might disagree because they're not as objective as you. Check.
Please do feel free to list this precedent you think exists.
Education is extremely important.
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I’m just curious, are there any conservatives here that are against this ? And the Disney thing?
For the purposes of my question, answers like “I would normally be against it, but the libs have gone too far, so…” don’t count as being against it.
@jon-nyc said in DeSantis blocks funds because sports team tweeted something he doesn’t like:
I’m just curious, are there any conservatives here that are against this ? And the Disney thing?
I am against the analogies you conjure in your attempts to convince people that this is a bad thing, but the quality of those analogies is suspect. I'm not against, in principle, an elected politician exerting the will of the people who voted for him, in allocating discretionary public funds. I might not like the decisions sometimes, but such is life. If I dig into it deep enough, the first thing I look sideways at is discretionary public funds being funneled to private corporations. But before this stuff with Disney and the Rays, if you'd asked me, "Horace, do you suppose political alignment, or misalignment, has something to do with whether a private corporation would be given public funds?", I'd have said "Yes, I suppose it would." I would not have said that with a shocked face.
