Prager Speaks
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If an American president has ever given as mendacious, anti-American and hate-filled a speech as resident Joe Biden did in Buffalo, New York, last week, I am not familiar with it. Nor are you.
Biden used the terrible mass shooting of black people in a Buffalo grocery store to smear America, divide Americans and foment race-based hatred. A decent man would have given an entirely different speech.
A decent man would have gone to Buffalo and said something like this:
"My fellow Americans, what happened here in Buffalo was pure evil. Let there be no equivocating about this moral fact. If evil exists, what happened here was evil. But, my fellow Americans, this young man and his race-based homicidal hatred represents an infinitesimally small number of Americans, white or otherwise. The overwhelming majority of Americans of every race, ethnicity, and religion get along with each other beautifully. We work alongside each other, date each other, socialize with one another and marry one another. We are the most successful experiment in creating a multiracial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious country in world history. The actions of a deranged teenager do not change this fact."
Instead, the hater-in-chief went to Buffalo and said:
"What happened here is simple and straightforward: terrorism. Terrorism. Domestic terrorism. Violence inflicted in the service of hate and the vicious thirst for power that defines one group of people being inherently inferior to any other group. A hate that, through the media and politics, the internet, has radicalized angry, alienated and lost individuals into falsely believing that they will be replaced. That's the word. Replaced by 'the other.' By people who don't look like them.
"Look, we've seen the mass shootings in Charleston, South Carolina; El Paso, Texas; in Pittsburgh. Last year, in Atlanta. This week, in Dallas, Texas, and now in Buffalo. In Buffalo, New York. White supremacy is a poison. It's a poison. It really is. Running through our body politic. And it's been allowed to fester and grow right in front of our eyes. No more. I mean, no more. We need to say as clearly and forcefully as we can that the ideology of white supremacy has no place in America. None ...
"Look, the American experiment in democracy is in a danger like it hasn't been in my lifetime. It's in danger this hour. Hate and fear are being given too much oxygen by those who pretend to love America, but who don't understand America. ...
"Now is the time for the people of all races, from every background, to speak up as a majority in America and reject white supremacy ...
"We have to refuse to live in a country where black people going about a weekly grocery shopping can be gunned down by weapons of war deployed in a racist cause ..."
As noted earlier, this was not only a hate-filled speech; it was a speech of the Big Lie. The Big Lie of white supremacy as a major threat to America generally and to black America specifically.
Let's examine each of the examples of white supremacist mass shootings he gave:
"Charleston, South Carolina"
Seven years ago, Dylann Roof killed nine black worshippers at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.
"El Paso, Texas"
In 2019, a 21-year-old white racist, Patrick Wood Crusius, killed 23 people and wounded 21 others at a Walmart store. The great majority of his victims were Hispanic.
"Pittsburgh"
In 2018, a white antisemite, Robert Gregory Bowers, murdered 11 Jews attending Sabbath services at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh. As was the case with the Buffalo shooter, Bowers was a deeply troubled man. His father, while on trial for rape, committed suicide when Bowers was 7 years old, and like all the examples Biden cited, he was a troubled loner. Neither he nor any of these other shooters worked in concert with any hate group or co-conspirators.
"Last year in Atlanta"
In 2021, 21-year-old Robert Aaron Long killed eight people at three massage parlors. The killings were motivated by his sex addiction and his religious conviction that those who tempted him should be killed. Race had nothing to do with it.
"This week in Dallas, Texas"
Last week in Dallas, Jeremy Smith shot and wounded three women of Asian descent.
Jeremy Smith is a black man.
Why Biden included this shooting as an example of white supremacy is a puzzle. Why no mainstream media I could find noted and condemned this lie is not puzzling.
For the rest: https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2022/05/24/joe-bidens-buffalo-speech-was-the-speech-of-an-indecent-man-n2607703
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My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
Please love yourself.
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My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?
@Klaus said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?
Prager's intelligent enough that I can reasonably expect him to understand that our political system relies on tension between two parties. But he doesn't have the EQ to ever own up to this, or the Right's shortcomings. What those shortcomings are can be debated, but his position that the Right always has all the answers is ridiculous.
He makes some good points, but I can get those elsewhere, from people who aren't conservative propagandists. So I will and I'll continue to ignore his tirades. His bullshit doesn't help.
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My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.
Education is extremely important.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
Please love yourself.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.
When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.
This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.
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@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.
When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.
This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Prager Speaks:
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.
When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.
This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.
I'm comfortable classifying the president as a representative of the mainstream left.
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@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with.
@Jolly said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with.
IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.
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@Jolly said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with.
IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Jolly said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with.
IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.
Your loss.
The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Jolly said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with.
IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.
Your loss.
The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.
@Jolly said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Jolly said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
@Horace said in Prager Speaks:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:
My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:
- The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
- We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.
Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.
If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.
He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.
I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.
IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with.
IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.
The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.
Which is exactly why I ignore Prager.
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