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    Mik
    wrote on 24 May 2022, 12:31 last edited by
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    There are dangers to our republic and he is one.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      Jolly
      wrote on 24 May 2022, 12:41 last edited by
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      I don't understand how you can govern successfully, by constantly exploiting division.

      โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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        Mik
        wrote on 24 May 2022, 12:42 last edited by
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        Depends on how you define success I suppose.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          Horace
          wrote on 24 May 2022, 16:31 last edited by
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          Sad, but that playbook is virtuous in the minds of American popular culture. It's here to stay, unless the younger generation rejects it for what it is - the mainstream majority shoving their antiquated ideas down their throats.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 24 May 2022, 17:01 last edited by
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            My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

            • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
            • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

            Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

            If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

            Please love yourself.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              24 May 2022, 17:01

              My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

              • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
              • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

              Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

              If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

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              Klaus
              wrote on 24 May 2022, 17:03 last edited by
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

              My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

              • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
              • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

              Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

              If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

              That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?

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              • K Klaus
                24 May 2022, 17:03

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 24 May 2022, 17:06 last edited by
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                @Klaus said in Prager Speaks:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?

                Prager's intelligent enough that I can reasonably expect him to understand that our political system relies on tension between two parties. But he doesn't have the EQ to ever own up to this, or the Right's shortcomings. What those shortcomings are can be debated, but his position that the Right always has all the answers is ridiculous.

                He makes some good points, but I can get those elsewhere, from people who aren't conservative propagandists. So I will and I'll continue to ignore his tirades. His bullshit doesn't help.

                Please love yourself.

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  24 May 2022, 17:01

                  My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                  • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                  • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                  Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                  If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 24 May 2022, 17:18 last edited by
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                  My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                  • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                  • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                  Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                  If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                  He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                  One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • H Horace
                    24 May 2022, 17:18

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                    My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                    • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                    • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                    Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                    If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                    He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                    One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 24 May 2022, 17:30 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                    My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                    • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                    • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                    Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                    If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                    He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                    I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • H Horace
                      24 May 2022, 17:18

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                      My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                      • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                      • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                      Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                      If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                      He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                      One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 24 May 2022, 17:35 last edited by
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                      @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                      One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                      When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.

                      This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.

                      I was only joking

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        24 May 2022, 17:35

                        @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                        One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                        When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.

                        This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 24 May 2022, 17:37 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Prager Speaks:

                        @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                        One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                        When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.

                        This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.

                        I'm comfortable classifying the president as a representative of the mainstream left.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • A Aqua Letifer
                          24 May 2022, 17:30

                          @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                          My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                          • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                          • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                          Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                          If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                          He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                          I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 24 May 2022, 18:10 last edited by
                          #13

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                          @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                          My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                          • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                          • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                          Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                          If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                          He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                          I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                          IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. ๐Ÿ˜›

                          โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            24 May 2022, 18:10

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                            • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                            • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                            Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                            If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                            He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                            I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                            IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. ๐Ÿ˜›

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 24 May 2022, 18:25 last edited by
                            #14

                            @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                            • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                            • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                            Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                            If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                            He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                            I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                            IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. ๐Ÿ˜›

                            IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • A Aqua Letifer
                              24 May 2022, 18:25

                              @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                              • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                              • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                              Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                              If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                              He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                              I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                              IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. ๐Ÿ˜›

                              IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 25 May 2022, 00:56 last edited by
                              #15

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                              • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                              • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                              Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                              If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                              He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                              I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                              IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. ๐Ÿ˜›

                              IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                              Your loss.

                              The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.

                              โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                25 May 2022, 00:56

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                                My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                                • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                                • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                                Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                                If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                                He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                                I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                                IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. ๐Ÿ˜›

                                IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                                Your loss.

                                The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 25 May 2022, 01:26 last edited by
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                                @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                                My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                                • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                                • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                                Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                                If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                                He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                                I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                                IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. ๐Ÿ˜›

                                IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                                The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.

                                Which is exactly why I ignore Prager.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 25 May 2022, 01:44 last edited by
                                  #17

                                  Son, you're smart, but you are still lacking in wisdom.

                                  Give it time, it'll come.

                                  โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 25 May 2022, 01:53 last edited by
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                                    ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

                                    Please love yourself.

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