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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    I don't understand how you can govern successfully, by constantly exploiting division.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      Depends on how you define success I suppose.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Sad, but that playbook is virtuous in the minds of American popular culture. It's here to stay, unless the younger generation rejects it for what it is - the mainstream majority shoving their antiquated ideas down their throats.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

          • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
          • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

          Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

          If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

          Please love yourself.

          KlausK HoraceH 2 Replies Last reply
          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

            • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
            • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

            Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

            If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

            KlausK Offline
            KlausK Offline
            Klaus
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

            My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

            • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
            • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

            Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

            If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

            That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

              My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

              • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
              • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

              Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

              If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

              That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @Klaus said in Prager Speaks:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

              My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

              • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
              • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

              Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

              If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

              That's true, but on the other hand, isn't that a mistake most people make? Who thinks of himself as irrational?

              Prager's intelligent enough that I can reasonably expect him to understand that our political system relies on tension between two parties. But he doesn't have the EQ to ever own up to this, or the Right's shortcomings. What those shortcomings are can be debated, but his position that the Right always has all the answers is ridiculous.

              He makes some good points, but I can get those elsewhere, from people who aren't conservative propagandists. So I will and I'll continue to ignore his tirades. His bullshit doesn't help.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                  My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                  • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                  • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                  Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                  If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                  He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                  One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                  My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                  • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                  • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                  Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                  If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                  He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                  I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                  Please love yourself.

                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                    My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                    • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                    • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                    Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                    If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                    He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                    One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                    One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                    When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.

                    This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                      One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                      When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.

                      This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.

                      HoraceH Offline
                      HoraceH Offline
                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Prager Speaks:

                      @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                      One of the main premises of his piece is that the left believes this shooter was mainstream-right-adjacent. Which, they do. Just ask them.

                      When people say "The left", do they mean me? Because I consider myself a liberal, but I frequently don't believe what people say I believe.

                      This guy was obviously an extremist. D'uh.

                      I'm comfortable classifying the president as a representative of the mainstream left.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                        My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                        • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                        • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                        Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                        If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                        He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                        I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                        JollyJ Offline
                        JollyJ Offline
                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                        @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                        My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                        • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                        • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                        Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                        If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                        He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                        I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                        IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. 😛

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                          @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                          My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                          • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                          • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                          Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                          If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                          He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                          I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                          IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. 😛

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #14

                          @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                          @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                          My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                          • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                          • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                          Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                          If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                          He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                          I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                          IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. 😛

                          IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                            • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                            • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                            Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                            If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                            He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                            I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                            IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. 😛

                            IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                            JollyJ Offline
                            JollyJ Offline
                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #15

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                            My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                            • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                            • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                            Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                            If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                            He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                            I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                            IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. 😛

                            IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                            Your loss.

                            The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                              • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                              • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                              Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                              If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                              He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                              I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                              IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. 😛

                              IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                              Your loss.

                              The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.

                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Jolly said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Horace said in Prager Speaks:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Prager Speaks:

                              My problem with Prager is that there isn't a single topic of conversation in which he doesn't take the position that:

                              • The not-Right side thinks they're being reasonable, but they're not, and
                              • We on the Right have the better, more objective answer.

                              Sometimes he sprinkles in a little anger and hostility, too. But every response has at least those two.

                              If someone told him that lefties believe the earth revolves around the sun, he'd laugh and say that's because the left hates the STEM fields and don't understand that Ptolemy solved this problem centuries ago.

                              He probably picks his spots, in areas he believes the right is rational and the left is not.

                              I've never heard him say otherwise about anything ever. So until he does, I'm considering him a conservative propagandist.

                              IOW, in this piece he's right and you have nothing to quibble with. 😛

                              IOW, I have no idea because I got to the author and stopped reading for the reasons listed above.

                              The echo chamber is not conducive to retrospection.

                              Which is exactly why I ignore Prager.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                Son, you're smart, but you are still lacking in wisdom.

                                Give it time, it'll come.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                                  Please love yourself.

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