Baby Formula
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@89th said in Baby Formula:
Ok stupid question. What did babies do for the 10,000 last years before formula was available? And yes, spare me the "half would die before 2" statistic.
Moms didn't work and nursed.
Or, there were wet nurses.
Link to videowrote on 13 May 2022, 14:33 last edited by@George-K said in Baby Formula:
@89th said in Baby Formula:
Ok stupid question. What did babies do for the 10,000 last years before formula was available? And yes, spare me the "half would die before 2" statistic.
Moms didn't work and nursed.
Yeah many (including my wife) worked and pumped at work... hence the 1,800 ounces we still have. This supply issue, don't get me wrong, is a major issue for those who legitimately rely on it. For others, including some of my wife's friends with babies, it's more of an annoyance as they have said "Well I guess I have to keep pumping/feeding instead of converting to formula after 6 months".
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/baby-formula-shortage-abbott-recall/629828/
Article analyzing the causes for baby formula shortage in the USA. One of the causes cited is US trade policy, including a provision signed into the USMCA (Trump's revision to NAFTA) that discourages importation of baby formula from Canada.
wrote on 13 May 2022, 14:38 last edited by@Axtremus said in Baby Formula:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/baby-formula-shortage-abbott-recall/629828/
Article analyzing the causes for baby formula shortage in the USA. One of the causes cited is US trade policy, including a provision signed into the USMCA (Trump's revision to NAFTA) that discourages importation of baby formula from Canada.
You're like a fucking broken record. A leftwing propaganda machine.
There is no baby formula shortage..... well, at least not if you're an illegal coming across Biden's open Southern border.. you'll get a free supply of baby formula.
That's right - while our own citizens have to live in fear of not being able to feed their children, the fucking fool Biden is handing it out free to anyone who wants it as they violate our laws.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 16:36 last edited by
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So some poor woman will be forced to give birth to a baby she doesn't want, but then won't have any formula to feed it.
She won't know who to blame for her predicament!
wrote on 13 May 2022, 16:44 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes No worries. She hangs around social media for ten minutes, she'll have more solutions than she'll ever be able to use.
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"Do not take."
This is, of course, a negligible amount, in the big scheme of things.
One of the causes cited is US trade policy, including a provision signed into the USMCA (Trump's revision to NAFTA) that discourages importation of baby formula from Canada.
Other causes, perhaps more important:
FDA regulation of formula is so stringent that most of the stuff that comes out of Europe is illegal to buy here due to technicalities like labeling requirements. Nevertheless, one study found that many European formulas meet the FDA nutritional guidelines—and, in some ways, might even be better than American formula, because the European Union bans certain sugars, such as corn syrup, and requires formulas to have a higher share of lactose.
Yeah, I'd guess that FDA regulations are a bigger factor (and they're mentioned first in the article) than the re-negotiated NAFTA agreement.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 18:33 last edited by Doctor Phibes
Thanks, George - apparently, there's a rightwing propaganda machine, too.
It makes no sense considering the numbers involved to blame all this on giving it to illegals.
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@Doctor-Phibes No worries. She hangs around social media for ten minutes, she'll have more solutions than she'll ever be able to use.
wrote on 13 May 2022, 19:40 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Baby Formula:
@Doctor-Phibes No worries. She hangs around social media for ten minutes, she'll have more solutions than she'll ever be able to use.
And that's the truth. The FDA is screaming it's unsafe, but millions of kids have been raised on homemade formula.
Hell, I've got my doctor's notes...IIRC, they were introducing pureed TABLE FOOD at around six weeks...
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 22:57 last edited by
How about "newspaper readers?"
Baby Formula Is Hard to Find. Brands and Stores Are Divided Over Why.
Retailers and formula makers agree that out-of-stocks are a problem. They don’t agree on how severe it is and who is to blame. Chains like Walmart Inc. WMT 0.39%▲ and CVS Health Corp. CVS -0.78%▼ say the manufacturers are having supply issues; formula makers say retailers aren’t getting product to stores once it is delivered.
“The shelves are just bare,” said Derval Kenny, 65, of Rye, N.Y., who has been trying to help find Similac formula for two infant grandsons who live in Connecticut and New Jersey. “To me, there should be an uproar.”
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Ms. Kenny, whose grandsons are five and six months old, said she has driven to stores across her county and into neighboring Connecticut and placed an order on Amazon last week that hasn’t yet been delivered. While she hasn’t been able to find the premixed formula bottles that her grandsons use, she has found powdered versions, she said.
The shortages are intermittent and vary based on retailer and location, said Krishnakumar Davey, president of strategic analytics at IRI, a retail research firm. Nationwide, in-stock levels for baby formula and food are slightly higher than for food products overall. However, Mr. Davey said, some of the nation’s 10 largest retailers had more than 20% of baby formula out of stock the week ended Jan. 2, typical of recent months. An out-of-stock rate above 10% is considered a problem, he said.
That was in January.
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wrote on 13 May 2022, 23:23 last edited by
Fortune tellers!
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wrote on 14 May 2022, 00:55 last edited by
This is one of those things that I had no idea was so stupidly political until I had an infant of my own. What possible reason could anybody have for having an opinion on whether or not other people's kids drink formula?
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wrote on 15 May 2022, 11:55 last edited by
Now, Biden would be more concerned if it was an Ensure crisis...
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J Jolly referenced this topic on 16 May 2022, 00:29
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wrote on 16 May 2022, 18:11 last edited by
Maybe Predient Biden should get involved like Premier Kim does in DPRK
(http://www.vok.rep.kp/index.php/Data_detail_common/getDetail/iee220413006/8/en)
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wrote on 16 May 2022, 18:26 last edited by
The Asian Corn Pop?
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wrote on 22 May 2022, 22:45 last edited by
Mrs. George and I were on the way to our riding lesson this afternoon, and she asked me to explain the cause(s) of this crisis.
In a tl;dr version, can someone womansplain this to me?
Limited production in the US...? Why?
Limited imports...? Why?
Has this been brewing for a while...? And now you noticed? Should've had a crystal ball, I suppose. -
wrote on 23 May 2022, 01:07 last edited by
IIRC, WSJ did a story on the shortage in February. CNN did one last fall.
It has been said it took the Whitehouse 6 months to come up with the "Ultra MAGA" term. They were too busy to think about feeding babies...
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wrote on 23 May 2022, 01:55 last edited by
Now you think it's the government's responsibility to feed babies, eh? Did you think so too when discussing public welfare programs?
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wrote on 23 May 2022, 02:40 last edited by
I think it's the government's business to not get in the way businesses making baby formula.
Besides, I'm the guy that wants to keep babies alive. You're the guy that wants to cut babies to pieces in the womb and then suck them out with a vacuum, to have the bloody body parts splat into a plastic container.
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I think it's the government's business to not get in the way businesses making baby formula.
Besides, I'm the guy that wants to keep babies alive. You're the guy that wants to cut babies to pieces in the womb and then suck them out with a vacuum, to have the bloody body parts splat into a plastic container.
wrote on 23 May 2022, 07:27 last edited by@Jolly said in Baby Formula:
I think it's the government's business to not get in the way businesses making baby formula.
Consider what happened when a government did not sufficiently got in the way businesses making baby formula:
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wrote on 23 May 2022, 11:21 last edited by
And the Chinese tort system is what?