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  • M Mik
    6 Jun 2020, 01:23

    Great Dadding. 👍

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    George K
    wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 01:46 last edited by George K 6 Jun 2020, 01:47
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    @Mik said in Tell me about building a PC:

    Great Dadding. 👍

    Verb of the day!

    (Aqua in 3...2...1...)

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • X xenon
      5 Jun 2020, 22:48

      Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

      https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

      You can save $170 by going no graphics card (getting a CPU with built'in graphics like a laptop). Or about $100 by going with a very basic video card.

      You could perhaps save another $100 or so by going one tier down on the rest of the parts. But after that you're starting to make some real compromises.

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      jon-nyc
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      @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

      Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

      https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

      If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy at the end of the day.

      You were warned.

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      • M Mik
        6 Jun 2020, 01:23

        Great Dadding. 👍

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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        @Mik said in Tell me about building a PC:

        Great Dadding. 👍

        jon-nyc likes this post...

        You were warned.

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        • J jon-nyc
          6 Jun 2020, 02:12

          @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

          Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

          https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

          If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy at the end of the day.

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          George K
          wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 02:13 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in Tell me about building a PC:

          @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

          If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy racist at the end of the day.

          FIFY

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • J jon-nyc
            6 Jun 2020, 02:12

            @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

            Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

            https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

            If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy at the end of the day.

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            mark
            wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 02:34 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Tell me about building a PC:

            @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

            Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

            https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

            If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy at the end of the day.

            I am building a PC as we chat.

            This is the case that is at the top of my list. It's a full size tower because I'm building a monster! lol

            https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0037-00035?Item=9SIA68V7ER7618

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              xenon
              wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 03:04 last edited by
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              So - if you want a super clean look (no windows, no lights). Something like this is fantastic:

              https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Mid-Tower-ATX-Cases/Carbide-Series-275Q-Mid-Tower-Quiet-Gaming-Case-—-Black/p/CC-9011164-WW

              It’d be perfect if it had a usb-c port on the front (has regular USB ports and audio ports).

              But you can still get a usb-c on the back of the pc from your motherboard.

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                Rainman
                wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 03:16 last edited by
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                Hey Xenon!

                If the power supply were to be over-taxed, would there be some sort of automatic reduction in processing power, or would the computer crash, warning come up, etc.?

                I am amazed at how much processing power goes on with my DAW and large music files (dozens of tracks). It is a concern for many, though I've yet to have anything negative happen.

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 03:31 last edited by xenon 6 Jun 2020, 03:33
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                  If it’s a decent power supply - the fail safe will trigger when overburdened and your pc will shut down / crash / restart.

                  If it’s a crappy power supply you may smell burning electronics and the power supply will eventually fail (potentially - but not likely taking other components with it)

                  Your cpu will not taper down performance due to insufficient power. The parts assume the required power will be available.

                  If the power supply has a fan, put your hand and ear near it at load. If your power supply is struggling it’ll get noticeably hotter and louder
                  (though it’s hard to isolate from the CPU which should also be doing the same).

                  If your power supply isn’t struggling - then that tells you it’s not your problem, if it is - this is still not always an indication of a problem (some power supplies are just loud and hot)

                  The best way to check if your power supply is overburdened is to add the max power rating of your CPU and motherboard (is you know the model number) together and see if it’s anywhere close to the rating on your power supply.

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                    mark
                    wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 07:53 last edited by mark 6 Jun 2020, 12:41
                    #22

                    Here is what is currently in my cart at Newegg.com

                    CPU: Intel Intel Core i9-7940X Skylake X 14-Core 3.1 GHz LGA 2066 165W BX80673I97940X Desktop Processor
                    https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-x-series-intel-core-i9-7940x/p/N82E16819117834

                    Motherboard: ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gb/s Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
                    https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-rampage-vi-extreme-encore/p/N82E16813119216?Item=N82E16813119216

                    Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex Gold 1300W 80+ Gold, ECO Fanless & Silent Mode, Full Modular Power Supply, Dual Ball Bearing Fan, SF-1300F14MG
                    https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-gold-sf-1300f14mg-1300w/p/1HU-024C-00013?Item=9SIAMNPB056032

                    Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 128GB (4 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18Q-128GVK
                    https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-128gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374005?Item=N82E16820374005

                    Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER BLACK GAMING, 08G-P4-3081-KR, 8GB GDDR6
                    https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-super-08g-p4-3081-kr/p/N82E16814487461?Item=N82E16814487461

                    HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                    https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                    Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G
                    https://www.newegg.com/arctic-silver-as5-3-5g/p/N82E16835100007?Item=N82E16835100007

                    Case: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Black rev. 2
                    https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0037-00035?Item=9SIA68V7ER7618

                    Monitor: TBD

                    Keyboard: TBD

                    Mouse: Kensington Expert Mouse TrackBall
                    https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Trackball-Mouse-K64325/dp/B00009KH63

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 09:17 last edited by xenon 6 Jun 2020, 09:17
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                      @mark Wow - now that is a sweet rig.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 10:03 last edited by
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                        Nah, still won’t fix Mindcraft’s crappy graphics.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 11:58 last edited by
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                          @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

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                          • 8 89th
                            6 Jun 2020, 11:58

                            @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

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                            mark
                            wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 12:43 last edited by
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                            @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                            @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                            HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                            https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                            Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

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                              mark
                              wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:01 last edited by
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                              I am reevaluating the HDD choice. I might opt for the faster PCIe 4.0 interface that provides Max Sequential Reads of 5000 vs. 3500 MB/ps and Max Sequential Writes of 4400 vs. 3300 MB/ps.

                              Sabrent 2TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive With Heatsink (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-HTSK-2TB)
                              https://www.newegg.com/sabrent-rocket-nvme-4-0-2tb/p/0D9-001Y-00023

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                              • M mark
                                6 Jun 2020, 12:43

                                @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:03 last edited by
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                                @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  6 Jun 2020, 13:03

                                  @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                  HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                  https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                  Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                  So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

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                                  mark
                                  wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:04 last edited by
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                                  @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                  HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                  https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                  Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                  So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                  $3.8k

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                                  • A Axtremus
                                    6 Jun 2020, 10:03

                                    Nah, still won’t fix Mindcraft’s crappy graphics.

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                                    mark
                                    wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:06 last edited by
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                                    @Axtremus The Sabrent SSD I chose has a MTBF rating of 1,700,000 hours with is 70,000 days or 194 years. lol

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                                    • G George K
                                      6 Jun 2020, 13:03

                                      @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                      @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                      @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                      HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                      https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                      Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                      So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

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                                      mark
                                      wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:10 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                      @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                      @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                      @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                      HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                      https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                      Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                      So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                      If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

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                                      • M mark
                                        6 Jun 2020, 13:04

                                        @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                        HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                        https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                        Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                        So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                        $3.8k

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:10 last edited by
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                                        @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                        $3.8k

                                        CPU - $958
                                        Motherboard - $750
                                        Power supply $230
                                        RAM - $490
                                        Video Card $720
                                        SSD - $430
                                        Case $270
                                        Trackball - $85
                                        External Drive $150

                                        Total $4,083.

                                        Add a monitor and keyboard....

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • M mark
                                          6 Jun 2020, 13:10

                                          @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                          HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                          https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                          Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                          So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                          If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

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                                          mark
                                          wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:11 last edited by
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                                          @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                          HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                          https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                          Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                          So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                          If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

                                          Ah! I forgot the external drive. lol I have a 4 TB right now that would suffice so that is an optional purchase.

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