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Tell me about building a PC

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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by xenon
    #21

    If it’s a decent power supply - the fail safe will trigger when overburdened and your pc will shut down / crash / restart.

    If it’s a crappy power supply you may smell burning electronics and the power supply will eventually fail (potentially - but not likely taking other components with it)

    Your cpu will not taper down performance due to insufficient power. The parts assume the required power will be available.

    If the power supply has a fan, put your hand and ear near it at load. If your power supply is struggling it’ll get noticeably hotter and louder
    (though it’s hard to isolate from the CPU which should also be doing the same).

    If your power supply isn’t struggling - then that tells you it’s not your problem, if it is - this is still not always an indication of a problem (some power supplies are just loud and hot)

    The best way to check if your power supply is overburdened is to add the max power rating of your CPU and motherboard (is you know the model number) together and see if it’s anywhere close to the rating on your power supply.

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    • markM Offline
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      mark
      wrote on last edited by mark
      #22

      Here is what is currently in my cart at Newegg.com

      CPU: Intel Intel Core i9-7940X Skylake X 14-Core 3.1 GHz LGA 2066 165W BX80673I97940X Desktop Processor
      https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-x-series-intel-core-i9-7940x/p/N82E16819117834

      Motherboard: ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gb/s Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
      https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-rampage-vi-extreme-encore/p/N82E16813119216?Item=N82E16813119216

      Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex Gold 1300W 80+ Gold, ECO Fanless & Silent Mode, Full Modular Power Supply, Dual Ball Bearing Fan, SF-1300F14MG
      https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-gold-sf-1300f14mg-1300w/p/1HU-024C-00013?Item=9SIAMNPB056032

      Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 128GB (4 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18Q-128GVK
      https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-128gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374005?Item=N82E16820374005

      Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER BLACK GAMING, 08G-P4-3081-KR, 8GB GDDR6
      https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-super-08g-p4-3081-kr/p/N82E16814487461?Item=N82E16814487461

      HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
      https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

      Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G
      https://www.newegg.com/arctic-silver-as5-3-5g/p/N82E16835100007?Item=N82E16835100007

      Case: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Black rev. 2
      https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0037-00035?Item=9SIA68V7ER7618

      Monitor: TBD

      Keyboard: TBD

      Mouse: Kensington Expert Mouse TrackBall
      https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Trackball-Mouse-K64325/dp/B00009KH63

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        xenon
        wrote on last edited by xenon
        #23

        @mark Wow - now that is a sweet rig.

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          Axtremus
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          #24

          Nah, still won’t fix Mindcraft’s crappy graphics.

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            89th
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            #25

            @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

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            • 89th8 89th

              @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

              markM Offline
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              @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

              @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

              HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
              https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

              Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
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                mark
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                I am reevaluating the HDD choice. I might opt for the faster PCIe 4.0 interface that provides Max Sequential Reads of 5000 vs. 3500 MB/ps and Max Sequential Writes of 4400 vs. 3300 MB/ps.

                Sabrent 2TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive With Heatsink (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-HTSK-2TB)
                https://www.newegg.com/sabrent-rocket-nvme-4-0-2tb/p/0D9-001Y-00023

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                • markM mark

                  @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                  @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                  HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                  https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                  Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

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                  George K
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                  #28

                  @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                  @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                  @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                  HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                  https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                  Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                  So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                    @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                    @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                    HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                    https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                    Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                    So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                    markM Offline
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                    mark
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #29

                    @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                    @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                    @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                    @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                    HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                    https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                    Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                    So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                    $3.8k

                    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Nah, still won’t fix Mindcraft’s crappy graphics.

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                      mark
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #30

                      @Axtremus The Sabrent SSD I chose has a MTBF rating of 1,700,000 hours with is 70,000 days or 194 years. lol

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                      • George KG George K

                        @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                        @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                        @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                        HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                        https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                        Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                        So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                        markM Offline
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                        mark
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #31

                        @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                        @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                        @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                        @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                        HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                        https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                        Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                        So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                        If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

                        markM Doctor PhibesD 2 Replies Last reply
                        • markM mark

                          @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                          @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                          @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                          @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                          HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                          https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                          Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                          So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                          $3.8k

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #32

                          @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                          @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                          So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                          $3.8k

                          CPU - $958
                          Motherboard - $750
                          Power supply $230
                          RAM - $490
                          Video Card $720
                          SSD - $430
                          Case $270
                          Trackball - $85
                          External Drive $150

                          Total $4,083.

                          Add a monitor and keyboard....

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • markM mark

                            @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                            @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                            @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                            @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                            HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                            https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                            Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                            So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                            If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

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                            mark
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                            #33

                            @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                            @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                            @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                            @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                            @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                            HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                            https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                            Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                            So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                            If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

                            Ah! I forgot the external drive. lol I have a 4 TB right now that would suffice so that is an optional purchase.

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                              mark
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                              #34

                              Already have a 30" monitor but will be adding a new one possibly 2. The new video card supports 4 monitors and a max resolution of 7680 x 4320. I'm seriously thinking about one ultra wide and the 30" or maybe a 4k (42" or so) TV. The possibilities are fun.

                              Keyboard and Mouse, I have the Mouse. Keyboard will most likely be a gaming keyboard, wired of course.

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                                Horace
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                                #35

                                Thanks for all the good info, I will be building a PC myself soon.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • markM mark

                                  @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                  HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                  https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                  Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                  So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                  If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                  HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                  https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                  Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                  So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                  If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

                                  Forget the PC - you could get a really nice monitor stand for that, and also help fund H's pension.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    Thanks for all the good info, I will be building a PC myself soon.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    @Horace said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                    Thanks for all the good info, I will be building a PC myself soon.

                                    Heretic.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      xenon
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                                      #38

                                      Here’s a really cool case that knocks off the Mac Pro aesthetic.

                                      https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dune-pro-pc-case#/

                                      Doesn’t seem widely available though. More like some sort of Kickstarter type offering.

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                                        @mark that’s so good. Sounds like the best computer EVAH 🤤

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @mark that’s so good. Sounds like the best computer EVAH 🤤

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                                          @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @mark that’s so good. Sounds like the best computer EVAH 🤤

                                          It should be a good one. I build them to last 8 to 10 years. My current build is going on 10 years old. Started out life as a First Generation i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads. It was also a Windows 7 machine. It's maxed out at 12 GB of ram. lol The new one will go to 256 GB ram. I decided that 10x my current memory or 128 GB would more than suffice. It was kinder to the budget than to just max it out right out of the gate. Upgrades are always fun.

                                          Forgot the CPU cooler. I need to go back and look at them.

                                          I was considering the 16 core / 32 thread, AMD Threadripper processor but I have always had good luck with Intel processors so I decided to stay with them this time around. The have a 32 core / 64 thread version but it runs $1,500. Intel maxes out at 18 cores and costs as much and more than the AMD 32 core. It's tempting to throw caution to the wind and get the 32 core AMD but I am not sure I want to go there. I certainly don't need it. No, 14 cores will be plenty. lol

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