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  • MikM Offline
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    Great Dadding. 👍

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Great Dadding. 👍

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      @Mik said in Tell me about building a PC:

      Great Dadding. 👍

      Verb of the day!

      (Aqua in 3...2...1...)

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • X xenon

        Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

        https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

        You can save $170 by going no graphics card (getting a CPU with built'in graphics like a laptop). Or about $100 by going with a very basic video card.

        You could perhaps save another $100 or so by going one tier down on the rest of the parts. But after that you're starting to make some real compromises.

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        @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

        Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

        https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

        If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy at the end of the day.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • MikM Mik

          Great Dadding. 👍

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          @Mik said in Tell me about building a PC:

          Great Dadding. 👍

          jon-nyc likes this post...

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

            Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

            https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

            If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy at the end of the day.

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            @jon-nyc said in Tell me about building a PC:

            @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

            If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy racist at the end of the day.

            FIFY

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

              Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

              https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

              If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy at the end of the day.

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              @jon-nyc said in Tell me about building a PC:

              @xenon said in Tell me about building a PC:

              Here's a pretty good build in terms of bang for buck. It is DEFINITELY overkill for minecraft - but is something I would recommend as a fairly future-proof machine (this CPU is extremely capable for digital editing / coding / encoding):

              https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FbPDx

              If I wanted the user ports on the front, or on the top, which model case would you suggest? Nothing too ghetto with lights and all, I'm a Mac guy at the end of the day.

              I am building a PC as we chat.

              This is the case that is at the top of my list. It's a full size tower because I'm building a monster! lol

              https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0037-00035?Item=9SIA68V7ER7618

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                So - if you want a super clean look (no windows, no lights). Something like this is fantastic:

                https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Mid-Tower-ATX-Cases/Carbide-Series-275Q-Mid-Tower-Quiet-Gaming-Case-—-Black/p/CC-9011164-WW

                It’d be perfect if it had a usb-c port on the front (has regular USB ports and audio ports).

                But you can still get a usb-c on the back of the pc from your motherboard.

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                  Hey Xenon!

                  If the power supply were to be over-taxed, would there be some sort of automatic reduction in processing power, or would the computer crash, warning come up, etc.?

                  I am amazed at how much processing power goes on with my DAW and large music files (dozens of tracks). It is a concern for many, though I've yet to have anything negative happen.

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                    #21

                    If it’s a decent power supply - the fail safe will trigger when overburdened and your pc will shut down / crash / restart.

                    If it’s a crappy power supply you may smell burning electronics and the power supply will eventually fail (potentially - but not likely taking other components with it)

                    Your cpu will not taper down performance due to insufficient power. The parts assume the required power will be available.

                    If the power supply has a fan, put your hand and ear near it at load. If your power supply is struggling it’ll get noticeably hotter and louder
                    (though it’s hard to isolate from the CPU which should also be doing the same).

                    If your power supply isn’t struggling - then that tells you it’s not your problem, if it is - this is still not always an indication of a problem (some power supplies are just loud and hot)

                    The best way to check if your power supply is overburdened is to add the max power rating of your CPU and motherboard (is you know the model number) together and see if it’s anywhere close to the rating on your power supply.

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                      #22

                      Here is what is currently in my cart at Newegg.com

                      CPU: Intel Intel Core i9-7940X Skylake X 14-Core 3.1 GHz LGA 2066 165W BX80673I97940X Desktop Processor
                      https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-x-series-intel-core-i9-7940x/p/N82E16819117834

                      Motherboard: ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gb/s Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
                      https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-rampage-vi-extreme-encore/p/N82E16813119216?Item=N82E16813119216

                      Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex Gold 1300W 80+ Gold, ECO Fanless & Silent Mode, Full Modular Power Supply, Dual Ball Bearing Fan, SF-1300F14MG
                      https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-gold-sf-1300f14mg-1300w/p/1HU-024C-00013?Item=9SIAMNPB056032

                      Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 128GB (4 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18Q-128GVK
                      https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-128gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374005?Item=N82E16820374005

                      Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER BLACK GAMING, 08G-P4-3081-KR, 8GB GDDR6
                      https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-super-08g-p4-3081-kr/p/N82E16814487461?Item=N82E16814487461

                      HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                      https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                      Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G
                      https://www.newegg.com/arctic-silver-as5-3-5g/p/N82E16835100007?Item=N82E16835100007

                      Case: be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Black rev. 2
                      https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-0037-00035?Item=9SIA68V7ER7618

                      Monitor: TBD

                      Keyboard: TBD

                      Mouse: Kensington Expert Mouse TrackBall
                      https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Trackball-Mouse-K64325/dp/B00009KH63

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                        xenon
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                        #23

                        @mark Wow - now that is a sweet rig.

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                          Nah, still won’t fix Mindcraft’s crappy graphics.

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                            @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

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                              @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

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                              @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                              @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                              HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                              https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                              Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

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                                I am reevaluating the HDD choice. I might opt for the faster PCIe 4.0 interface that provides Max Sequential Reads of 5000 vs. 3500 MB/ps and Max Sequential Writes of 4400 vs. 3300 MB/ps.

                                Sabrent 2TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive With Heatsink (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-HTSK-2TB)
                                https://www.newegg.com/sabrent-rocket-nvme-4-0-2tb/p/0D9-001Y-00023

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                                • markM mark

                                  @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                  HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                  https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                  Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

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                                  @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                  @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                  HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                  https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                  Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                  So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                    @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                    @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                    HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                    https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                    Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                    So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

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                                    @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                    @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                    @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                    @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                    HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                    https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                    Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                    So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                    $3.8k

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      Nah, still won’t fix Mindcraft’s crappy graphics.

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                                      @Axtremus The Sabrent SSD I chose has a MTBF rating of 1,700,000 hours with is 70,000 days or 194 years. lol

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                        HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                        https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                        Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                        So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                        markM Offline
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                                        mark
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                                        @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                        @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                        HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                        https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                        Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                        So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                        If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

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                                        • markM mark

                                          @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                                          HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                                          https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                                          Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                                          So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                          $3.8k

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                          So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                                          $3.8k

                                          CPU - $958
                                          Motherboard - $750
                                          Power supply $230
                                          RAM - $490
                                          Video Card $720
                                          SSD - $430
                                          Case $270
                                          Trackball - $85
                                          External Drive $150

                                          Total $4,083.

                                          Add a monitor and keyboard....

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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