The Wife Hates It
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@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
Not really a thing in our neck of the woods. Then again, we do Catholic stuff, so adding clicks would probably jazz it up a bit.
Heck, y'all don't even have a bass clef in your hymnals. Everybody knows Catholics can't sing.
It's not that we can't, it's just that half the time we don't know what language the singing is expected to be in.
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Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
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Most music ministers have no idea why they are using a click track, they are generally just doing it because the bigger churches areā¦ And members of the band complain about not being able to hear each otherā¦ They can help some musicians in that regard, but thatās not really why they are being used at the bigger churches. At a bigger church it can be one of two reasons. 1) STEM Tracks. 2) Video synchronizationā¦
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
Yeah, but at least y'all got purty churches....
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Drum kits? No, but there are ways around that, and pastoral musicians have been working their way around that obstacle.
Hereās a Franciscan Praise Musician
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
Drum kits? No, but there are ways around that, and pastoral musicians have been working their way around that obstacle.
Hereās a Franciscan Praise Musician
Link to videoNeat. That's still not at all the norm like you were suggesting.
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@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
Yeah, but at least y'all got purty churches....
Thanks, IT!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage.
Guitars were huge in Catholic services, especially back in the days of the hippies.
More than passing knowledge, we were still using Latin when I was an altar boy.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
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Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
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Most music ministers have no idea why they are using a click track, they are generally just doing it because the bigger churches areā¦ And members of the band complain about not being able to hear each otherā¦ They can help some musicians in that regard, but thatās not really why they are being used at the bigger churches. At a bigger church it can be one of two reasons. 1) STEM Tracks. 2) Video synchronizationā¦
STEM sucks. Don't care for canned anything in a live performance.
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@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@89th said in The Wife Hates It:
WTF is a click? A metronome for the ear?
To quote my son the drummer, I don't need no steenkin' click. I am the click!
Actually, most drummers need a clickā¦ Pretty badlyā¦
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https://qz.com/1044781/this-music-production-tool-is-the-reason-why-all-new-music-sounds-the-same/
What is āthe clickā?
The āclickā is a digital metronome that musicians listen to while recording to ensure their rhythm is exactly in time with the tempo. A simple and now nearly ubiquitous part of the recording process, it has had a profound effect on the music we listen to.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@89th said in The Wife Hates It:
WTF is a click? A metronome for the ear?
To quote my son the drummer, I don't need no steenkin' click. I am the click!
Actually, most drummers need a clickā¦ Pretty badlyā¦
He ain't too shabby...If he wanted, he could be a first-call guy in Austin.
Amazingly enough, I've got a five year-old granddaughter that can keep time better than most adult musicians. I don't think she'll be a pianist, although she's been taking lessons since she was four, but I think she has her mother's ear.
My daughter has ears like a bat.
True story...She was home from college one Christmas and walked through the family room munching a sandwich. I was watching a Boston Pops Christmas concert on the tv. Never slowing her stride, she said between bites, "The second clarinet is flat", as she walked out of the room. The wife and I looked at each other, and I turned the volume up.
I'll be durned. She was right...
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@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@89th said in The Wife Hates It:
WTF is a click? A metronome for the ear?
To quote my son the drummer, I don't need no steenkin' click. I am the click!
Actually, most drummers need a clickā¦ Pretty badlyā¦
He ain't too shabby...If he wanted, he could be a first-call guy in Austin.
Amazingly enough, I've got a five year-old granddaughter that can keep time better than most adult musicians. I don't think she'll be a pianist, although she's been taking lessons since she was four, but I think she has her mother's ear.
My daughter has ears like a bat.
True story...She was home from college one Christmas and walked through the family room munching a sandwich. I was watching a Boston Pops Christmas concert on the tv. Never slowing her stride, she said between bites, "The second clarinet is flat", as she walked out of the room. The wife and I looked at each other, and I turned the volume up.
I'll be durned. She was right...
That's rad. My family pretty much doesn't do music. My parents, anyway. My uncle's always been decent with a piano. I can keep from embarrassing myself on a guitar these days but that's it.
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Oh, I've lost what little bit I had. Can't hardly play a radio without static. Wife plays piano and autoharp (can pick one a bit), son primarily is a drummer, but can play bass, guitar and a bit of piano. Daughter is a flutist and plays guitar and piano.
Nephew will be here Saturday. He plays primarily a steel guitar, but also plays dobro, flattop guitar, jazz guitar, banjo and mandolin.
The musical talent in the family comes from my wife's daddy's side. Some are so-so, some are decent and a few are good. Probably a half-dozen of them have worked in Nashville over the years, from houseband stuff to sidemen with acts like James Monroe, Loretta Lynn and the Dixie Chicks.
Funny how that stuff runs in families...
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@89th said in The Wife Hates It:
WTF is a click? A metronome for the ear?
Thanks 89. You saved me from asking the same question. LOL