The Wife Hates It
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She got snagged into playing for church this Sunday and the last couple, too. We're back at our old church, after trying to help out another local church for a decade. After we managed to get that church roofed, ceiling redone and new flooring in the sanctuary, we're worn out. And old.
Time to dial back.Anyway, the music director at our old church likes to use a click during the song service. He and the musicians (piano, drums, keyboard, guitar) wear an earpiece to hear the click. My wife likes to rehearse with one, but hates to play with one. She's lost about half of her hearing (arthritis) in one ear and the click inhibits her ability to hear everything being played. She's the only one playing the melody, the rest are just playing chords or rhythm.
God didn't give her all the pianist talent in the world. Many of you can play with more power and speed than she can. What she can do, is shift timing on the fly, cover up a vocalist's mistake with an extra note or a slight variant fill, or if sudden inspiration strikes the music director and he wants to launch off into an unplanned verse of He Lives, or some other well-known hymn, she'll play it by ear and adjust to his timing.
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
Not really a thing in our neck of the woods. Then again, we do Catholic stuff, so adding clicks would probably jazz it up a bit.
Please love yourself.
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She got snagged into playing for church this Sunday and the last couple, too. We're back at our old church, after trying to help out another local church for a decade. After we managed to get that church roofed, ceiling redone and new flooring in the sanctuary, we're worn out. And old.
Time to dial back.Anyway, the music director at our old church likes to use a click during the song service. He and the musicians (piano, drums, keyboard, guitar) wear an earpiece to hear the click. My wife likes to rehearse with one, but hates to play with one. She's lost about half of her hearing (arthritis) in one ear and the click inhibits her ability to hear everything being played. She's the only one playing the melody, the rest are just playing chords or rhythm.
God didn't give her all the pianist talent in the world. Many of you can play with more power and speed than she can. What she can do, is shift timing on the fly, cover up a vocalist's mistake with an extra note or a slight variant fill, or if sudden inspiration strikes the music director and he wants to launch off into an unplanned verse of He Lives, or some other well-known hymn, she'll play it by ear and adjust to his timing.
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
:man-gesturing-no:
Ugh, sounds awful.
Having said that, with most of the bands I played in, the audience appreciated it if we sped up, since it meant the show was over quicker.
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@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
Not really a thing in our neck of the woods. Then again, we do Catholic stuff, so adding clicks would probably jazz it up a bit.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
Not really a thing in our neck of the woods. Then again, we do Catholic stuff, so adding clicks would probably jazz it up a bit.
Heck, y'all don't even have a bass clef in your hymnals. Everybody knows Catholics can't sing.
āCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!ā
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsā "due process". ā Buck Sexton
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
Not really a thing in our neck of the woods. Then again, we do Catholic stuff, so adding clicks would probably jazz it up a bit.
Heck, y'all don't even have a bass clef in your hymnals. Everybody knows Catholics can't sing.
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
What are y'all's thoughts on clicks during live performance?
Not really a thing in our neck of the woods. Then again, we do Catholic stuff, so adding clicks would probably jazz it up a bit.
Heck, y'all don't even have a bass clef in your hymnals. Everybody knows Catholics can't sing.
It's not that we can't, it's just that half the time we don't know what language the singing is expected to be in.
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Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
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Most music ministers have no idea why they are using a click track, they are generally just doing it because the bigger churches areā¦ And members of the band complain about not being able to hear each otherā¦ They can help some musicians in that regard, but thatās not really why they are being used at the bigger churches. At a bigger church it can be one of two reasons. 1) STEM Tracks. 2) Video synchronizationā¦
The Brad
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Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
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Most music ministers have no idea why they are using a click track, they are generally just doing it because the bigger churches areā¦ And members of the band complain about not being able to hear each otherā¦ They can help some musicians in that regard, but thatās not really why they are being used at the bigger churches. At a bigger church it can be one of two reasons. 1) STEM Tracks. 2) Video synchronizationā¦
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
Please love yourself.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
Yeah, but at least y'all got purty churches....
āCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!ā
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsā "due process". ā Buck Sexton
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Drum kits? No, but there are ways around that, and pastoral musicians have been working their way around that obstacle.
Hereās a Franciscan Praise Musician
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Drum kits? No, but there are ways around that, and pastoral musicians have been working their way around that obstacle.
Hereās a Franciscan Praise Musician
Link to video@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
Drum kits? No, but there are ways around that, and pastoral musicians have been working their way around that obstacle.
Hereās a Franciscan Praise Musician
Link to videoNeat. That's still not at all the norm like you were suggesting.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
Yeah, but at least y'all got purty churches....
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
Yeah, but at least y'all got purty churches....
Thanks, IT!
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
- Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
LD has obviously not ever set foot in a baptist or evangelical church if he thinks Catholics are "generally as down with praise music."
You are aware that I was the praise leader for a Baptist Church until October 2020?
I also spend 2 weeks every four years presenting and demonstrating at the Catholic āNational Pastoral Musicians Conferenceā and I have established a group of Pastoral Musicians and Worship Leaders that meet quarterly to discuss challenges and solutions that they have in their particular parishes or churches? I also work closely with the DC Diocese music leaders.
I might express opinions on matters that I only have a passing knowledge of, but this isnāt one of themā¦
Then hey, maybe speaking for others is kind of a dick move! I'm not an "every Sunday" kind of churchgoer, but you name a Catholic church in the DC area, chances are very high I've been there due to my uncle.
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage. Precisely zero. That's not to say it's the same the world over, but there's still a significant difference in music between Catholic and some Protestant churches.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Wife Hates It:
Zero percent of them ever featured a drummer or guitarist on a stage.
Guitars were huge in Catholic services, especially back in the days of the hippies.
More than passing knowledge, we were still using Latin when I was an altar boy.
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Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
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Most music ministers have no idea why they are using a click track, they are generally just doing it because the bigger churches areā¦ And members of the band complain about not being able to hear each otherā¦ They can help some musicians in that regard, but thatās not really why they are being used at the bigger churches. At a bigger church it can be one of two reasons. 1) STEM Tracks. 2) Video synchronizationā¦
@LuFins-Dad said in The Wife Hates It:
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Aqua has obviously stopped going to Mass on a regular basis or is still attending an extremely conservative service. The Catholics in the US are generally as down with praise music as the evangelicals, you just wonāt hear their pieces on the radioā¦
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Most music ministers have no idea why they are using a click track, they are generally just doing it because the bigger churches areā¦ And members of the band complain about not being able to hear each otherā¦ They can help some musicians in that regard, but thatās not really why they are being used at the bigger churches. At a bigger church it can be one of two reasons. 1) STEM Tracks. 2) Video synchronizationā¦
STEM sucks. Don't care for canned anything in a live performance.
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@89th said in The Wife Hates It:
WTF is a click? A metronome for the ear?
To quote my son the drummer, I don't need no steenkin' click. I am the click!
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@89th said in The Wife Hates It:
WTF is a click? A metronome for the ear?
To quote my son the drummer, I don't need no steenkin' click. I am the click!
@Jolly said in The Wife Hates It:
@89th said in The Wife Hates It:
WTF is a click? A metronome for the ear?
To quote my son the drummer, I don't need no steenkin' click. I am the click!
Actually, most drummers need a clickā¦ Pretty badlyā¦
The Brad
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https://qz.com/1044781/this-music-production-tool-is-the-reason-why-all-new-music-sounds-the-same/
What is āthe clickā?
The āclickā is a digital metronome that musicians listen to while recording to ensure their rhythm is exactly in time with the tempo. A simple and now nearly ubiquitous part of the recording process, it has had a profound effect on the music we listen to.
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