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Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.

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    Mik
    wrote on 16 May 2022, 13:53 last edited by
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    This just has to be the end of Putin. He has set his nation back decades in every imaginable way.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • M Mik
      16 May 2022, 13:53

      This just has to be the end of Putin. He has set his nation back decades in every imaginable way.

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      Catseye3
      wrote on 16 May 2022, 14:29 last edited by
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      @Mik and also Renauda:

      It is amazing, how people so often fail to recognize the catalytic consequences of their actions. "So-and-so is doing X, so I will thwart him by doing Y," not considering that so-and-so might change as a result of my Y.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • R Renauda
        15 May 2022, 19:07

        Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.

        Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.

        All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 16 May 2022, 14:38 last edited by
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        @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

        Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.

        Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.

        All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.

        Wonder what the Turks got in return?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • C Catseye3
          16 May 2022, 14:29

          @Mik and also Renauda:

          It is amazing, how people so often fail to recognize the catalytic consequences of their actions. "So-and-so is doing X, so I will thwart him by doing Y," not considering that so-and-so might change as a result of my Y.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 16 May 2022, 15:26 last edited by Renauda
          #31

          @Catseye3

          My spouse has a theory that all this would have been gamed out beforehand and that Putin will now proceed to launch a internal blood purge to rid the country of imagined enemies of the people reminiscent of Stalin.

          It is plausible and he may attempt such at the top but I doubt that it would be without concerted and determined opposition from within unlike the 1930’s.

          Elbows up!

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            Mik
            wrote on 16 May 2022, 15:38 last edited by
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            We are really going through the looking glass here. Now Putin says NATO expansion is no big deal - no threat to Russia.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-sees-no-threat-from-nato-expansion-warns-against-military-build-up/ar-AAXjVyC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0adad094ec7b4f59ba6acc0c2cc14fe2

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • R Renauda
              16 May 2022, 15:26

              @Catseye3

              My spouse has a theory that all this would have been gamed out beforehand and that Putin will now proceed to launch a internal blood purge to rid the country of imagined enemies of the people reminiscent of Stalin.

              It is plausible and he may attempt such at the top but I doubt that it would be without concerted and determined opposition from within unlike the 1930’s.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 16 May 2022, 18:38 last edited by
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              @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

              @Catseye3

              My spouse has a theory that all this would have been gamed out beforehand and that Putin will now proceed to launch a internal blood purge to rid the country of imagined enemies of the people reminiscent of Stalin.

              It is plausible and he may attempt such at the top but I doubt that it would be without concerted and determined opposition from within unlike the 1930’s.

              How very Russian...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                16 May 2022, 14:38

                @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.

                Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.

                All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.

                Wonder what the Turks got in return?

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                Renauda
                wrote on 16 May 2022, 23:08 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.

                Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.

                All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.

                Wonder what the Turks got in return?

                Apparently not enough baksheesh:

                https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/16/russia-finland-sweden-nato-ukraine-war

                Bastards.

                Elbows up!

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                • R Renauda
                  16 May 2022, 23:08

                  @Jolly said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                  @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                  Turkey has now stated it will not block either Finland or Sweden from becoming NATO members.

                  Putin wanted less NATO as a war aim and is now getting even more NATO than he ever imagined.

                  All I can say is, sad Christmas for Putin.

                  Wonder what the Turks got in return?

                  Apparently not enough baksheesh:

                  https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/16/russia-finland-sweden-nato-ukraine-war

                  Bastards.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 16 May 2022, 23:15 last edited by
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                  @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                  Bastards.

                  Interesting , and sad.

                  Not surprising, though. Turkey's always been a wild-card in all this BS.

                  I have to agree and wonder what pressure was applied by Putin vs the rest of NATO in getting to this point.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 17 May 2022, 00:06 last edited by
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                    Not really surprising if you look at Turkey’s always precarious geographic position.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    • G George K
                      16 May 2022, 23:15

                      @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                      Bastards.

                      Interesting , and sad.

                      Not surprising, though. Turkey's always been a wild-card in all this BS.

                      I have to agree and wonder what pressure was applied by Putin vs the rest of NATO in getting to this point.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 17 May 2022, 00:59 last edited by
                      #37

                      @George-K

                      Erdogan may yet change his mind, again. Curious though that he waited this long to express his concerns. More baksheesh might calm his mind.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • R Renauda
                        17 May 2022, 00:59

                        @George-K

                        Erdogan may yet change his mind, again. Curious though that he waited this long to express his concerns. More baksheesh might calm his mind.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:03 last edited by
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                        @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                        Erdogan may yet change his mind, again.

                        He's been quite the wild card, hasn't he? Even before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:22 last edited by
                          #39

                          So hint that we might kick Turkey out of NATO.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:28 last edited by
                            #40

                            “Can Turkey be Expelled from NATO?”

                            https://www.justsecurity.org/66574/can-turkey-be-expelled-from-nato/

                            That’s from 2019. As it is, NATO currently does not have a procedure to expel a member state.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:31 last edited by jon-nyc
                              #41

                              Easy. All the other countries leave NATO and join SCHNATO, but don’t let Turkey join. SCHNATO has all the same characteristics of NATO except the Turks and maybe the Hungarians aren’t allowed to join. Finit.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 17 May 2022, 01:34 last edited by
                                #42

                                Might also allow Russia to declare victory saying they destroyed NATO!

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  17 May 2022, 01:34

                                  Might also allow Russia to declare victory saying they destroyed NATO!

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 17 May 2022, 02:19 last edited by Renauda
                                  #43

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  Well now, that solves everything.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 18 May 2022, 18:30 last edited by
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 18 May 2022, 18:35 last edited by
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                                      I love the idiots who are saying to kick Turkey out. I'm not sure there's a more geographically strategic country in the whole group.

                                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                        18 May 2022, 18:30

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 18 May 2022, 23:35 last edited by
                                        #46

                                        @George-K

                                        Putin smiled.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          18 May 2022, 23:35

                                          @George-K

                                          Putin smiled.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 18 May 2022, 23:41 last edited by
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                                          @Renauda said in Looks like Finland will apply for NATO membership.:

                                          @George-K

                                          Putin smiled.

                                          Ayup...

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                                          I'm sure that Erdogan understands his strategic significance, and he'll leverage that to the best of his ability.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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