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  • A Axtremus
    18 Nov 2022, 13:27

    It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

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    Horace
    wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 13:28 last edited by
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    @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

    It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

    I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

    Education is extremely important.

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    • H Horace
      18 Nov 2022, 13:28

      @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

      It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

      I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 13:31 last edited by
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      @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

      … how many employees does a website actually need?

      The engineering answer is “it depends.”

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        18 Nov 2022, 13:28

        @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

        I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

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        George K
        wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 13:31 last edited by
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        @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

        Yes.

        Someone posted a comment along the lines of, "Well, if the website is working, what are the 'engineers' for, other than to add bugs features?"

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • G George K
          18 Nov 2022, 13:31

          @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

          Yes.

          Someone posted a comment along the lines of, "Well, if the website is working, what are the 'engineers' for, other than to add bugs features?"

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          Horace
          wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 13:39 last edited by
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          @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

          Yes.

          Someone posted a comment along the lines of, "Well, if the website is working, what are the 'engineers' for, other than to add bugs features?"

          I doubt my observation, as an employee of a 10000 employee company, is rare. That entire groups of employees are justified by hand wavy claims of business impact filtered up through increasingly detached managers. Basically entire groups of employees exist and are paid based on the promise that they matter, made by someone who people trust, but whose fundamental interest is to increase the head count under him.

          Education is extremely important.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 13:46 last edited by
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            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • G George K
              18 Nov 2022, 13:31

              @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

              I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

              Yes.

              Someone posted a comment along the lines of, "Well, if the website is working, what are the 'engineers' for, other than to add bugs features?"

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 13:51 last edited by Axtremus
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              @George-K
              Don’t think of it as one web server. Think of it as hundreds of thousands of servers distributed over dozens of data centers across the world, where the “demand” can suddenly, drastically increase in different parts of the world. One moment, it maybe because of a protest in Iran, the next it maybe because of a stupid announcement by a Florida man.

              And that assumes no change in the underlying code (e.g., no security bug fix, no expiring licenses for 3rd party software components/services, no mandated policy change due to shifting local regulations anywhere in the world), no accidental hardware issue (e.g., cable cut, network switch leaking smoke), no utility (power supply, HVAC) issue, etc.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 14:14 last edited by
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                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • J jon-nyc
                  16 Nov 2022, 17:48

                  In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

                  Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

                  There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

                  A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 14:23 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

                  Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

                  There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

                  A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

                  Bunnies..... coffee everywhere. I love it. Most of them are whiny little worrywarts. Tracking things is all well and good. But on almost every project it eventually comes down to whether or not you can instill fear in one or more team members. Methodology does not negate human nature.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 14:25 last edited by
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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 15:30 last edited by
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                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 15:43 last edited by
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                        LOL, I love this. Mainly because I very very very much couldn't care less if Twitter goes away. But also Musk's track record helps defend his catalytic approach to fix a bloated company.

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                          kluurs
                          wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 15:45 last edited by
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 19:41 last edited by
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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              18 Nov 2022, 19:41

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                              George K
                              wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 19:55 last edited by
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                              Elon is drunk.

                              Can't spell "Kathy" and Jordan"

                              At least he got "Bee" right.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                18 Nov 2022, 15:30

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 22:15 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                Mexican Beer all over my iPhone and a crew of El Salvadorans looking at me strangely…

                                The Brad

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                                • L LuFins Dad
                                  18 Nov 2022, 22:15

                                  @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                  Mexican Beer all over my iPhone and a crew of El Salvadorans looking at me strangely…

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 22:18 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad lol

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 22:33 last edited by
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 22:35 last edited by
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                                      That’s hilarious

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 01:32 last edited by
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                                        https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-asks-twitter-users-vote-reinstatement-trump-2022-11-19/

                                        Elon asks Twitter users to vote on whether to reinstate Donald Trump's Twitter account.

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                                        • A Axtremus
                                          19 Nov 2022, 01:32

                                          https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-asks-twitter-users-vote-reinstatement-trump-2022-11-19/

                                          Elon asks Twitter users to vote on whether to reinstate Donald Trump's Twitter account.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 01:33 last edited by
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                                          @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                          https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-asks-twitter-users-vote-reinstatement-trump-2022-11-19/

                                          Elon asks Twitter users to vote on whether to reinstate Donald Trump's Twitter account.

                                          Democracy!

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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