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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #623

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #624

      This is the Tesla saga writ large and now paid attention to by the whole culture. These same feelings of watching a man and his company self destruct through incomprehensible CEO antics, were a thing for years before Tesla skyrocketed a couple years ago.

      Education is extremely important.

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        It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

          HoraceH Offline
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          @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

          I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

            I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

            AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
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            @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

            … how many employees does a website actually need?

            The engineering answer is “it depends.”

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              @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

              It’s very different between having employees with large chunks of pre-IPO stock options and having employees with token amounts options of a publicly traded stock. Trying to run the latter like the former is unlikely to work out.

              I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #628

              @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

              I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

              Yes.

              Someone posted a comment along the lines of, "Well, if the website is working, what are the 'engineers' for, other than to add bugs features?"

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

                Yes.

                Someone posted a comment along the lines of, "Well, if the website is working, what are the 'engineers' for, other than to add bugs features?"

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                @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

                Yes.

                Someone posted a comment along the lines of, "Well, if the website is working, what are the 'engineers' for, other than to add bugs features?"

                I doubt my observation, as an employee of a 10000 employee company, is rare. That entire groups of employees are justified by hand wavy claims of business impact filtered up through increasingly detached managers. Basically entire groups of employees exist and are paid based on the promise that they matter, made by someone who people trust, but whose fundamental interest is to increase the head count under him.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • George KG George K

                    @Horace said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                    I am very interested in the answer to the question, how many employees does a website actually need?

                    Yes.

                    Someone posted a comment along the lines of, "Well, if the website is working, what are the 'engineers' for, other than to add bugs features?"

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                    #631

                    @George-K
                    Don’t think of it as one web server. Think of it as hundreds of thousands of servers distributed over dozens of data centers across the world, where the “demand” can suddenly, drastically increase in different parts of the world. One moment, it maybe because of a protest in Iran, the next it maybe because of a stupid announcement by a Florida man.

                    And that assumes no change in the underlying code (e.g., no security bug fix, no expiring licenses for 3rd party software components/services, no mandated policy change due to shifting local regulations anywhere in the world), no accidental hardware issue (e.g., cable cut, network switch leaking smoke), no utility (power supply, HVAC) issue, etc.

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                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

                        Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

                        There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

                        A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                        In my experience there are often executives in charge of a big program and they are the ones that often have to wrestle it to the ground and are heavily involved and have the political power to remove obstacles.

                        Then there are “project management office” types that run around with gant charts and spreadsheets and ask people when their milestone will be met.

                        There are a lot more of the latter than the former.

                        A colleague of mine used to call them project management bunnies. That was politically incorrect even then.

                        Bunnies..... coffee everywhere. I love it. Most of them are whiny little worrywarts. Tracking things is all well and good. But on almost every project it eventually comes down to whether or not you can instill fear in one or more team members. Methodology does not negate human nature.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              LOL, I love this. Mainly because I very very very much couldn't care less if Twitter goes away. But also Musk's track record helps defend his catalytic approach to fix a bloated company.

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                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    George KG Offline
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                                    Elon is drunk.

                                    Can't spell "Kathy" and Jordan"

                                    At least he got "Bee" right.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      Mexican Beer all over my iPhone and a crew of El Salvadorans looking at me strangely…

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                        Mexican Beer all over my iPhone and a crew of El Salvadorans looking at me strangely…

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                                        @LuFins-Dad lol

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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