Academy Awards - Will Smith Edition
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
Yeah, somebody says something rude, so then you slap them. Then they shoot you in "self defence".
Isn't this the definition of "toxic masculinity?"
Somewhere, I read that he didn't react until she said something to him.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:19 last edited by@George-K said in Academy Awards:
Somewhere, I read that he didn't react...
He chucked at the joke. And then she gives the evil-eye toward the stage.
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I respect him for it. It was a cruel and tasteless joke that should never have been spoken.
I also respect the way Rock handled it. My hope is he did not know about her alopecia and will apologize.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:34 last edited by
As I think I had mentioned before, the rest of the night was a cock-up too.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes
It seems like what is considered OK at these things has moved over the last few years - a trend probably created by Ricky Gervais.
It might be an idea if people went in with the knowledge that they could be insulted. Not saying this trend is a good thing, but I don't think slapping people is a particularly great idea, either. They get paid the big bucks for a reason.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:39 last edited by
Ann Althouse on Smith's alopecia.
Finally, it's sad that the Smiths aren't proud of Jada's hair. She boldly shaves it down to almost nothing and that's a way of expressing great confidence in one's own beauty. I'm seeing some articles talking about her alopecia, but if you go to that link, you'll see she has a thin line of baldness across the top, and it's something that would be hidden if she didn't shave her head. She's highlighting the beauty of her face and the elegant structure of her head. She's not like those women in Chris Rock's movie who spend so much time at the hairdressers, use harsh chemicals, and cause so much importation of human hair from India.
The line of baldness:
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:46 last edited by
Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock. Please. It was a bitch move.
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Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock. Please. It was a bitch move.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:51 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Horace said in Academy Awards:
Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock.
Yeah, he smacked the skinny, loud mouthed kid who he knows full well can't fight back. Those of us who grew up as skinny, occasionally loud-mouthed kids know the scenario all too well.
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@Horace said in Academy Awards:
Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock.
Yeah, he smacked the skinny, loud mouthed kid who he knows full well can't fight back. Those of us who grew up as skinny, occasionally loud-mouthed kids know the scenario all too well.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:53 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
@Horace said in Academy Awards:
Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock.
Yeah, he smacked the skinny, loud mouthed kid who he knows full well can't fight back. Those of us who grew up as skinny, occasionally loud-mouthed kids know the scenario all too well.
Anybody who thinks this is the way things should be handled more generally must be imagining a world which is a level playing field for physical combat. But actually the real world is one where apparently the bigger or more highly trained martial artist gets to say whatever the fuck they want.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
@Horace said in Academy Awards:
Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock.
Yeah, he smacked the skinny, loud mouthed kid who he knows full well can't fight back. Those of us who grew up as skinny, occasionally loud-mouthed kids know the scenario all too well.
Anybody who thinks this is the way things should be handled more generally must be imagining a world which is a level playing field for physical combat. But actually the real world is one where apparently the bigger or more highly trained martial artist gets to say whatever the fuck they want.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:57 last edited by@Horace said in Academy Awards:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
@Horace said in Academy Awards:
Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock.
Yeah, he smacked the skinny, loud mouthed kid who he knows full well can't fight back. Those of us who grew up as skinny, occasionally loud-mouthed kids know the scenario all too well.
Anybody who thinks this is the way things should be handled more generally must be imagining a world which is a level playing field for physical combat. But actually the real world is one where apparently the bigger or more highly trained martial artist gets to say whatever the fuck they want.
What're you talking about? They just get shot is all.
And it's not the way things should be handled, but it's the way they will be handled, by a whole lot of people. It wasn't a bitch move, it's what human beings do. It's amazing it doesn't happen more often and with weapons.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:01 last edited by
These two idiots were essentially at work when this happened.
Anybody who did that where I work would get fired, which is probably why it doesn't happen except very occasionally in my head.
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These two idiots were essentially at work when this happened.
Anybody who did that where I work would get fired, which is probably why it doesn't happen except very occasionally in my head.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:02 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
These two idiots were essentially at work when this happened.
Anybody who did that where I work would get fired, which is probably why it doesn't happen except very occasionally in my head.
Check your local police reports. Assault is kind of common.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
These two idiots were essentially at work when this happened.
Anybody who did that where I work would get fired, which is probably why it doesn't happen except very occasionally in my head.
Check your local police reports. Assault is kind of common.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:04 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Academy Awards:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
These two idiots were essentially at work when this happened.
Anybody who did that where I work would get fired, which is probably why it doesn't happen except very occasionally in my head.
Check your local police reports. Assault is kind of common.
I meant it doesn't typically happen where I work. Neither does insulting people's wives, for that matter. Obviously, it happens a lot in some places.
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I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.
There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:07 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Academy Awards:
I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.
There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.
An armed society is a polite society.
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@Horace said in Academy Awards:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
@Horace said in Academy Awards:
Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock.
Yeah, he smacked the skinny, loud mouthed kid who he knows full well can't fight back. Those of us who grew up as skinny, occasionally loud-mouthed kids know the scenario all too well.
Anybody who thinks this is the way things should be handled more generally must be imagining a world which is a level playing field for physical combat. But actually the real world is one where apparently the bigger or more highly trained martial artist gets to say whatever the fuck they want.
What're you talking about? They just get shot is all.
And it's not the way things should be handled, but it's the way they will be handled, by a whole lot of people. It wasn't a bitch move, it's what human beings do. It's amazing it doesn't happen more often and with weapons.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:08 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Academy Awards:
@Horace said in Academy Awards:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:
@Horace said in Academy Awards:
Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock.
Yeah, he smacked the skinny, loud mouthed kid who he knows full well can't fight back. Those of us who grew up as skinny, occasionally loud-mouthed kids know the scenario all too well.
Anybody who thinks this is the way things should be handled more generally must be imagining a world which is a level playing field for physical combat. But actually the real world is one where apparently the bigger or more highly trained martial artist gets to say whatever the fuck they want.
What're you talking about? They just get shot is all.
And it's not the way things should be handled, but it's the way they will be handled, by a whole lot of people. It wasn't a bitch move, it's what human beings do. It's amazing it doesn't happen more often and with weapons.
What humans do does not preclude bitch move status. First, Smith hoped Jada laughed it off. Then he saw she wasn’t and felt obligated to do something because he didn’t want to live the rest of his life with this not addressed in the moment. Then he sized Rock up, and he did what he did. Because he was too afraid not to, and he panicked. If Rock had been bigger, his calculation would have been different.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Academy Awards:
I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.
There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.
An armed society is a polite society.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:09 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Academy Awards:
I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.
I don't. We have enough of that shit already.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Academy Awards:
I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.
There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.
An armed society is a polite society.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:12 last edited by@Jolly said in Academy Awards:
An armed society is a polite society.
Is it, though?
Who's more polite, Canadians, the Japanese or Americans?
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:16 last edited by
Yes, it is. At least in terms of manners.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:32 last edited by
@Jolly said in Academy Awards:
Yes, it is. At least in terms of manners.
I’m not convinced the evidence backs this up. It’s a nice idea, but I can think of a number of heavily armed societies that would not be described as particularly polite or well mannered.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:33 last edited by
A few years ago my wife and I were waiting to be seated at a Cracker Barrel. If you've ever been in a Cracker Barrel you know there's a store full of various merchandise for sale that you just naturally wander around in while waiting for a table, and there's not much room to move around. Two guys came in through the front doors, both obviously just a little drunk. They were being loud and obnoxious, but weren't really botheringvanyone.... until one of them decided he liked my wife's looks, hung his arm around her shoulders, and grabbed one of her boobs. He made some sort of snide comment, but before he could finish his sentence I had knocked the crap out of him. I could have cared less about being accused of assault.
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A few years ago my wife and I were waiting to be seated at a Cracker Barrel. If you've ever been in a Cracker Barrel you know there's a store full of various merchandise for sale that you just naturally wander around in while waiting for a table, and there's not much room to move around. Two guys came in through the front doors, both obviously just a little drunk. They were being loud and obnoxious, but weren't really botheringvanyone.... until one of them decided he liked my wife's looks, hung his arm around her shoulders, and grabbed one of her boobs. He made some sort of snide comment, but before he could finish his sentence I had knocked the crap out of him. I could have cared less about being accused of assault.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 14:35 last edited by@Larry that's different. He assaulted your wife. You defended her.
