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  • 8 89th
    28 Mar 2022, 12:15

    @George-K said in Academy Awards:

    @89th said in Academy Awards:

    If a comedian makes a joke about my wife's illness, I'd be seeing red.

    Wouldn't we all?

    But, does that justify an assault?

    (Rock declined to press charges, by the way)

    No, doesn't justify the assault, but makes it understandable. Smith didn't have a plan when he stood up, could've gone with a fake punch, a real punch, a slap, or a push... he went for the slap, I guess. I like the uncensored clip above because it really lets the raw "Keep my wife's name..." audio play out as Smith's yelling echoes through the room. AWKWARD.

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    George K
    wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:21 last edited by
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    @89th said in Academy Awards:

    No, doesn't justify the assault, but makes it understandable.

    "Understandable" ≠ "Right"

    A guy whose family is starving robs a bank. It's understandable...

    OTOH, check out the CTA thread I posted yesterday. Some guys have a disagreement, and one of them empties his pistol at the other guy (I think I heard ten shots).

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • G George K
      28 Mar 2022, 12:13

      @89th said in Academy Awards:

      If a comedian makes a joke about my wife's illness, I'd be seeing red.

      Wouldn't we all?

      But, does that justify an assault?

      (Rock declined to press charges, by the way)

      Seen on twitter: "Will Smith attacked Chris Rock and then helped us all heal by explaining how tough God’s plan for him is."

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:29 last edited by
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      @George-K said in Academy Awards:

      @89th said in Academy Awards:

      If a comedian makes a joke about my wife's illness, I'd be seeing red.

      Wouldn't we all?

      All of us except for Ted Cruz.

      (Rock declined to press charges, by the way)

      It’s not his decision.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        28 Mar 2022, 12:29

        @George-K said in Academy Awards:

        @89th said in Academy Awards:

        If a comedian makes a joke about my wife's illness, I'd be seeing red.

        Wouldn't we all?

        All of us except for Ted Cruz.

        (Rock declined to press charges, by the way)

        It’s not his decision.

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        George K
        wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:35 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Academy Awards:

        It’s not his decision.

        https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/28/entertainment/chris-rock-will-smith-charges-intl-scli/index.html

        The LAPD confirmed on Monday that Rock declined to file a police report.

        "LAPD investigative entities are aware of an incident between two individuals during the Academy Awards program," the department told CNN in a statement. "The incident involved one individual slapping another. The individual involved has declined to file a police report. If the involved party desires a police report at a later date, LAPD will be available to complete an investigative report."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:40 last edited by
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          They’re punting on purpose. Cops can charge misdemeanor assault whether the victim wants the, to or not

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Mik
            wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:46 last edited by
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            I respect him for it. It was a cruel and tasteless joke that should never have been spoken.

            I also respect the way Rock handled it. My hope is he did not know about her alopecia and will apologize.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:53 last edited by LuFins Dad
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              I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.

              There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.

              The Brad

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              • M Mik
                28 Mar 2022, 12:46

                I respect him for it. It was a cruel and tasteless joke that should never have been spoken.

                I also respect the way Rock handled it. My hope is he did not know about her alopecia and will apologize.

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                89th
                wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:53 last edited by
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                @Mik said in Academy Awards:

                I respect him for it. It was a cruel and tasteless joke that should never have been spoken.

                I also respect the way Rock handled it. My hope is he did not know about her alopecia and will apologize.

                Agreed. If you look carefully you can tell Rock almost says something about how he could keep going (after Smith stops yelling) but Rock stops himself from poking the bear further. Somewhat impressive recovery of the situation.

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                • L LuFins Dad
                  28 Mar 2022, 12:53

                  I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.

                  There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 12:57 last edited by
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Academy Awards:

                  I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.

                  There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.

                  Yep.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    28 Mar 2022, 12:53

                    I don’t know, I kind of think the world would be a little bit better if people had to weigh the very real odds of getting their ass kicked for running their mouth too far.

                    There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:03 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Academy Awards:

                    There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.

                    Yeah, somebody says something rude, so then you slap them. Then they shoot you in "self defence".

                    I don't think confronting anybody physically is a good idea when so many people carry weapons.

                    I was only joking

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      28 Mar 2022, 12:40

                      They’re punting on purpose. Cops can charge misdemeanor assault whether the victim wants the, to or not

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                      George K
                      wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:04 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Academy Awards:

                      They’re punting on purpose. Cops can charge misdemeanor assault whether the victim wants the, to or not

                      Looked it up. I didn't know.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        28 Mar 2022, 13:03

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Academy Awards:

                        There’s something to be said for settling differences out back. Within reason, of course.

                        Yeah, somebody says something rude, so then you slap them. Then they shoot you in "self defence".

                        I don't think confronting anybody physically is a good idea when so many people carry weapons.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:06 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:

                        Yeah, somebody says something rude, so then you slap them. Then they shoot you in "self defence".

                        Isn't this the definition of "toxic masculinity?"

                        Somewhere, I read that he didn't react until she said something to him.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          28 Mar 2022, 13:06

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:

                          Yeah, somebody says something rude, so then you slap them. Then they shoot you in "self defence".

                          Isn't this the definition of "toxic masculinity?"

                          Somewhere, I read that he didn't react until she said something to him.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:10 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in Academy Awards:

                          Isn't this the definition of "toxic masculinity?"

                          Will Smith certainly didn't resemble his wise-cracking Fresh Prince character, wittily making fun of all and sundry, did he?

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            28 Mar 2022, 13:10

                            @George-K said in Academy Awards:

                            Isn't this the definition of "toxic masculinity?"

                            Will Smith certainly didn't resemble his wise-cracking Fresh Prince character, wittily making fun of all and sundry, did he?

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:12 last edited by
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:

                            @George-K said in Academy Awards:

                            Isn't this the definition of "toxic masculinity?"

                            Will Smith certainly didn't resemble his wise-cracking Fresh Prince character, wittily making fun of all and sundry, did he?

                            Quite the contrary, he reminded us all that he's still from West Philadelphia, born and raised.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • G George K
                              28 Mar 2022, 13:06

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Academy Awards:

                              Yeah, somebody says something rude, so then you slap them. Then they shoot you in "self defence".

                              Isn't this the definition of "toxic masculinity?"

                              Somewhere, I read that he didn't react until she said something to him.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:19 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Academy Awards:

                              Somewhere, I read that he didn't react...

                              He chucked at the joke. And then she gives the evil-eye toward the stage.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • M Mik
                                28 Mar 2022, 12:46

                                I respect him for it. It was a cruel and tasteless joke that should never have been spoken.

                                I also respect the way Rock handled it. My hope is he did not know about her alopecia and will apologize.

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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:23 last edited by
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                                @Mik: I respect him for it. It was a cruel and tasteless joke that should never have been spoken.
                                ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

                                Yes. It has to do with honor and loyalty.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:34 last edited by
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                                  As I think I had mentioned before, the rest of the night was a cock-up too.

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/academy-awards-review-the-show-lost-its-luster-long-before-will-smith-s-slap/ar-AAVz0zc?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e35b85ed0edd4af18c3710f79a734d39

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                    It seems like what is considered OK at these things has moved over the last few years - a trend probably created by Ricky Gervais.

                                    It might be an idea if people went in with the knowledge that they could be insulted. Not saying this trend is a good thing, but I don't think slapping people is a particularly great idea, either. They get paid the big bucks for a reason.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:39 last edited by
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                                      Ann Althouse on Smith's alopecia.

                                      Finally, it's sad that the Smiths aren't proud of Jada's hair. She boldly shaves it down to almost nothing and that's a way of expressing great confidence in one's own beauty. I'm seeing some articles talking about her alopecia, but if you go to that link, you'll see she has a thin line of baldness across the top, and it's something that would be hidden if she didn't shave her head. She's highlighting the beauty of her face and the elegant structure of her head. She's not like those women in Chris Rock's movie who spend so much time at the hairdressers, use harsh chemicals, and cause so much importation of human hair from India.

                                      The line of baldness:

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:46 last edited by
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                                        Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock. Please. It was a bitch move.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          28 Mar 2022, 13:46

                                          Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock. Please. It was a bitch move.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:51 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                                          @Horace said in Academy Awards:

                                          Anybody who thinks Smith was chivalrous or honorable for doing what he did needs to consider whether he would have done it to The Rock rather than Chris Rock.

                                          Yeah, he smacked the skinny, loud mouthed kid who he knows full well can't fight back. Those of us who grew up as skinny, occasionally loud-mouthed kids know the scenario all too well.

                                          I was only joking

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