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Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana'

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    Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

    John Ogdon?

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

      John Ogdon?

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      @jon-nyc Stephen Hough, although he has written a small number of short pieces. I like his arrangements/transcriptions.

      Last Monday he gave a broadcast recital on BBC3 from Wigmore Hall. Here's the link:

      Stephen Hough recital

      Great playing as expected!

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        I know! I announced it here in advance.

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          Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

          John Ogdon?

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          @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

          Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

          Hamelin?

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            Stephen Hough

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              @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

              Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

              Hamelin?

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              @Klaus I forgot that Hamelin has composed. At the last Van Cliburn competition all of the contestants had to play his toccata L'Homme arme'.
              L'Homme arme'

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                I know! I announced it here in advance.

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                @jon-nyc Sorry, asleep at the switch!

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                  @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                  Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

                  Hamelin?

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                  @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                  Link to video

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                    I can’t say I know all of Hamelin’s compositions, I do have the score of his etudes. I don’t know of any I’d rank with this Trifonov piece.

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                      Thanks for posting this, @jon-nyc . Even though it is supposed to be some sort of homage to Rachmaninov, the first one reminds me about Ravel.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                        Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

                        Hamelin?

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                        @Klaus said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                        @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                        Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

                        Hamelin?

                        Fazil Say may be another candidate.

                        Alma Deutscher is a pianist-violinist-composer child prodigy I'm keeping an eye on.

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                          He's no first tier pianist. Say, that is.

                          Speaking of, I ran into him in the Bosendorfer NY store once.

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                            @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                            Link to video

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                            @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                            @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                            By the way, I heard him play the triple-etude as an encore at Mannes. He told the story that it was written pretty much as a dare.

                            That night's program included both the Liszt Sonata and Gaspard. In case there was any doubt.

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                              @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                              @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                              By the way, I heard him play the triple-etude as an encore at Mannes. He told the story that it was written pretty much as a dare.

                              That night's program included both the Liszt Sonata and Gaspard. In case there was any doubt.

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                              @jon-nyc Liszt Sonata and Gaspard? I’m guessing he wanted an easy, relaxing night. 😉

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                                @SD-Tav I found a writeup about the program in the times, more of a preview than a review. Great article - talks a lot about his composition and other things about him.

                                Give it a read.

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/arts/music/marc-andre-hamelin-at-mannes-college.html

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                                  @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                                  Link to video

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                                  @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                                  @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                                  Link to video

                                  You need four hands to play this!

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                                    Did you notice, "bring out upper A in left hand" at the end?

                                    I get the joke. Funny guy!

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                                      @SD-Tav I found a writeup about the program in the times, more of a preview than a review. Great article - talks a lot about his composition and other things about him.

                                      Give it a read.

                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/arts/music/marc-andre-hamelin-at-mannes-college.html

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                                      @jon-nyc Interesting article from 2011. I wonder when he'll get around to the late Beethoven sonatas. I'll look forward to that! I heard him play 'Gaspard' at the La Jolla summer festival a few years ago. He played with complete control of the dynamics. It was really very impressive. If he ever returns I'll go hear him again regardless of what he plays.

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