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Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana'

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  • KlausK Klaus

    @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

    Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

    Hamelin?

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    @Klaus I forgot that Hamelin has composed. At the last Van Cliburn competition all of the contestants had to play his toccata L'Homme arme'.
    L'Homme arme'

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      I know! I announced it here in advance.

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      @jon-nyc Sorry, asleep at the switch!

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      • KlausK Klaus

        @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

        Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

        Hamelin?

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        @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

        Link to video

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          I can’t say I know all of Hamelin’s compositions, I do have the score of his etudes. I don’t know of any I’d rank with this Trifonov piece.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Thanks for posting this, @jon-nyc . Even though it is supposed to be some sort of homage to Rachmaninov, the first one reminds me about Ravel.

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

              Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

              Hamelin?

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              @Klaus said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

              @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

              Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

              Hamelin?

              Fazil Say may be another candidate.

              Alma Deutscher is a pianist-violinist-composer child prodigy I'm keeping an eye on.

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                He's no first tier pianist. Say, that is.

                Speaking of, I ran into him in the Bosendorfer NY store once.

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                  @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                  Link to video

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                  @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                  @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                  By the way, I heard him play the triple-etude as an encore at Mannes. He told the story that it was written pretty much as a dare.

                  That night's program included both the Liszt Sonata and Gaspard. In case there was any doubt.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                    @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                    By the way, I heard him play the triple-etude as an encore at Mannes. He told the story that it was written pretty much as a dare.

                    That night's program included both the Liszt Sonata and Gaspard. In case there was any doubt.

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                    @jon-nyc Liszt Sonata and Gaspard? I’m guessing he wanted an easy, relaxing night. 😉

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                      @SD-Tav I found a writeup about the program in the times, more of a preview than a review. Great article - talks a lot about his composition and other things about him.

                      Give it a read.

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/arts/music/marc-andre-hamelin-at-mannes-college.html

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                        @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                        Link to video

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                        @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                        @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                        Link to video

                        You need four hands to play this!

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                          Did you notice, "bring out upper A in left hand" at the end?

                          I get the joke. Funny guy!

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @SD-Tav I found a writeup about the program in the times, more of a preview than a review. Great article - talks a lot about his composition and other things about him.

                            Give it a read.

                            https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/arts/music/marc-andre-hamelin-at-mannes-college.html

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                            @jon-nyc Interesting article from 2011. I wonder when he'll get around to the late Beethoven sonatas. I'll look forward to that! I heard him play 'Gaspard' at the La Jolla summer festival a few years ago. He played with complete control of the dynamics. It was really very impressive. If he ever returns I'll go hear him again regardless of what he plays.

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