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Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana'

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  • KlausK Klaus

    @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

    Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

    Hamelin?

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    @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

    Link to video

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      I can’t say I know all of Hamelin’s compositions, I do have the score of his etudes. I don’t know of any I’d rank with this Trifonov piece.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Thanks for posting this, @jon-nyc . Even though it is supposed to be some sort of homage to Rachmaninov, the first one reminds me about Ravel.

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        • KlausK Klaus

          @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

          Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

          Hamelin?

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          @Klaus said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

          @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

          Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

          Hamelin?

          Fazil Say may be another candidate.

          Alma Deutscher is a pianist-violinist-composer child prodigy I'm keeping an eye on.

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            He's no first tier pianist. Say, that is.

            Speaking of, I ran into him in the Bosendorfer NY store once.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

              Link to video

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              @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

              @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

              By the way, I heard him play the triple-etude as an encore at Mannes. He told the story that it was written pretty much as a dare.

              That night's program included both the Liszt Sonata and Gaspard. In case there was any doubt.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                By the way, I heard him play the triple-etude as an encore at Mannes. He told the story that it was written pretty much as a dare.

                That night's program included both the Liszt Sonata and Gaspard. In case there was any doubt.

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                @jon-nyc Liszt Sonata and Gaspard? I’m guessing he wanted an easy, relaxing night. 😉

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                  @SD-Tav I found a writeup about the program in the times, more of a preview than a review. Great article - talks a lot about his composition and other things about him.

                  Give it a read.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/arts/music/marc-andre-hamelin-at-mannes-college.html

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                    @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                    Link to video

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                    @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                    @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                    Link to video

                    You need four hands to play this!

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                      Did you notice, "bring out upper A in left hand" at the end?

                      I get the joke. Funny guy!

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @SD-Tav I found a writeup about the program in the times, more of a preview than a review. Great article - talks a lot about his composition and other things about him.

                        Give it a read.

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/arts/music/marc-andre-hamelin-at-mannes-college.html

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                        @jon-nyc Interesting article from 2011. I wonder when he'll get around to the late Beethoven sonatas. I'll look forward to that! I heard him play 'Gaspard' at the La Jolla summer festival a few years ago. He played with complete control of the dynamics. It was really very impressive. If he ever returns I'll go hear him again regardless of what he plays.

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