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Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana'

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Despite the title he plays all 5 movements. I love this set. The talent this man has. Wow.

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    @jon-nyc Trifonov is an incredible talent. Thanks for sharing. He and Yuja are two pianists I always enjoy!

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      Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

      John Ogdon?

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

        John Ogdon?

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        @jon-nyc Stephen Hough, although he has written a small number of short pieces. I like his arrangements/transcriptions.

        Last Monday he gave a broadcast recital on BBC3 from Wigmore Hall. Here's the link:

        Stephen Hough recital

        Great playing as expected!

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          I know! I announced it here in advance.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

            John Ogdon?

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            @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

            Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

            Hamelin?

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              Stephen Hough

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                @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

                Hamelin?

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                @Klaus I forgot that Hamelin has composed. At the last Van Cliburn competition all of the contestants had to play his toccata L'Homme arme'.
                L'Homme arme'

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                  I know! I announced it here in advance.

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                  @jon-nyc Sorry, asleep at the switch!

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                  • KlausK Klaus

                    @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                    Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

                    Hamelin?

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                    @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                    Link to video

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                      I can’t say I know all of Hamelin’s compositions, I do have the score of his etudes. I don’t know of any I’d rank with this Trifonov piece.

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        Thanks for posting this, @jon-nyc . Even though it is supposed to be some sort of homage to Rachmaninov, the first one reminds me about Ravel.

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                          Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

                          Hamelin?

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                          @Klaus said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                          @jon-nyc said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                          Who was the last top tier pianist who could compose at this level?

                          Hamelin?

                          Fazil Say may be another candidate.

                          Alma Deutscher is a pianist-violinist-composer child prodigy I'm keeping an eye on.

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                            He's no first tier pianist. Say, that is.

                            Speaking of, I ran into him in the Bosendorfer NY store once.

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                              Link to video

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                              @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                              @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                              By the way, I heard him play the triple-etude as an encore at Mannes. He told the story that it was written pretty much as a dare.

                              That night's program included both the Liszt Sonata and Gaspard. In case there was any doubt.

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                                @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                                @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                                By the way, I heard him play the triple-etude as an encore at Mannes. He told the story that it was written pretty much as a dare.

                                That night's program included both the Liszt Sonata and Gaspard. In case there was any doubt.

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                                @jon-nyc Liszt Sonata and Gaspard? I’m guessing he wanted an easy, relaxing night. 😉

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                                  @SD-Tav I found a writeup about the program in the times, more of a preview than a review. Great article - talks a lot about his composition and other things about him.

                                  Give it a read.

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/arts/music/marc-andre-hamelin-at-mannes-college.html

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                                    @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                                    Link to video

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                                    @SD-Tav said in Trifonov's 'Rachmaniana':

                                    @Klaus Hamelin's Etudes in the Minor Keys. You'd better have his technique if you want to play them.

                                    Link to video

                                    You need four hands to play this!

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                                      Did you notice, "bring out upper A in left hand" at the end?

                                      I get the joke. Funny guy!

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @SD-Tav I found a writeup about the program in the times, more of a preview than a review. Great article - talks a lot about his composition and other things about him.

                                        Give it a read.

                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/arts/music/marc-andre-hamelin-at-mannes-college.html

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                                        @jon-nyc Interesting article from 2011. I wonder when he'll get around to the late Beethoven sonatas. I'll look forward to that! I heard him play 'Gaspard' at the La Jolla summer festival a few years ago. He played with complete control of the dynamics. It was really very impressive. If he ever returns I'll go hear him again regardless of what he plays.

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