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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

    @LuFins-Dad said in The darling of Russian state TV:

    There has been a weird and strong influence by the Russians in some areas of Conservative media.

    It doesn't make any sense at all for "conservatives" to be fans of this Russian regime. It's completely at odds with what they're supposed to stand for.

    Indeed, the intellectual conservatives should recognize that lots of what the Putin regime does is at odds with conservatism. But the emotional self-proclaimed “conservatives” seem more easily taken in by Putin’s manufactured “strong man” propaganda, more ready to accept unilaterally taking another country by force as a sign of “genius,” well, as long as said “genius” wraps himself in some form of Christian whiteness.

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    @Axtremus said in The darling of Russian state TV:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

    @LuFins-Dad said in The darling of Russian state TV:

    There has been a weird and strong influence by the Russians in some areas of Conservative media.

    It doesn't make any sense at all for "conservatives" to be fans of this Russian regime. It's completely at odds with what they're supposed to stand for.

    Indeed, the intellectual conservatives should recognize that lots of what the Putin regime does is at odds with conservatism. But the emotional self-proclaimed “conservatives” seem more easily taken in by Putin’s manufactured “strong man” propaganda, more ready to accept unilaterally taking another country by force as a sign of “genius,” well, as long as said “genius” wraps himself in some form of Christian whiteness.

    So, the west by and large cares about Ukraine because Ukraine is mostly white, except for the faux conservatives who care about Russia, because Russia is mostly white. Yes, that checks out as the worldview of lefties vis a vis racism being the root cause of everything wrong.

    Education is extremely important.

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      George K
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      I really haven't been paying too much attention to the "Carlson is a Putin fan" controversy, such as it is.

      Can someone point me to a tl;dr summary of the pro-Russia pro-Putin things he's said?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        There are video compilations all over.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @Axtremus said in The darling of Russian state TV:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

          @LuFins-Dad said in The darling of Russian state TV:

          There has been a weird and strong influence by the Russians in some areas of Conservative media.

          It doesn't make any sense at all for "conservatives" to be fans of this Russian regime. It's completely at odds with what they're supposed to stand for.

          Indeed, the intellectual conservatives should recognize that lots of what the Putin regime does is at odds with conservatism. But the emotional self-proclaimed “conservatives” seem more easily taken in by Putin’s manufactured “strong man” propaganda, more ready to accept unilaterally taking another country by force as a sign of “genius,” well, as long as said “genius” wraps himself in some form of Christian whiteness.

          So, the west by and large cares about Ukraine because Ukraine is mostly white, except for the faux conservatives who care about Russia, because Russia is mostly white. Yes, that checks out as the worldview of lefties vis a vis racism being the root cause of everything wrong.

          AxtremusA Away
          AxtremusA Away
          Axtremus
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          #14

          @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

          @Axtremus said in The darling of Russian state TV:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

          @LuFins-Dad said in The darling of Russian state TV:

          There has been a weird and strong influence by the Russians in some areas of Conservative media.

          It doesn't make any sense at all for "conservatives" to be fans of this Russian regime. It's completely at odds with what they're supposed to stand for.

          Indeed, the intellectual conservatives should recognize that lots of what the Putin regime does is at odds with conservatism. But the emotional self-proclaimed “conservatives” seem more easily taken in by Putin’s manufactured “strong man” propaganda, more ready to accept unilaterally taking another country by force as a sign of “genius,” well, as long as said “genius” wraps himself in some form of Christian whiteness.

          So, the west by and large cares about Ukraine because Ukraine is mostly white, except for the faux conservatives who care about Russia, because Russia is mostly white. Yes, that checks out as the worldview of lefties vis a vis racism being the root cause of everything wrong.

          The faux conservatives first seems to be attracted to Putin’s “strong man” persona. But Putin is not the only autocrat to project a “strong man” persona, so why the faux conservatives are not similarly attracted to other “strong man” personae? The differentiator may well be that Putin is white wraps himself in Christianity (the Russian Orthodox Church) while the other “strong man” personae (e.g., Erdogan, Duterte, Kim) is not, cannot, or do not. Call it intersectionalism, these emotional conservatives seem attracted to “white Christian strongmen.”

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            @Axtremus said in The darling of Russian state TV:

            The faux conservatives first seems to be attracted to Putin’s “strong man” persona. But Putin is not the only autocrat to project a “strong man” persona, so why the faux conservatives are not similarly attracted to other “strong man” personae? The differentiator may well be that Putin is white wraps himself in Christianity (the Russian Orthodox Church) while the other “strong man” personae (e.g., Erdogan, Duterte, Kim) is not, cannot, or do not. Call it intersectionalism, these emotional conservatives seem attracted to “white Christian strongmen.”

            Maybe they simply like topless men on horses.

            Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.

            I was only joking

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            • George KG George K

              I really haven't been paying too much attention to the "Carlson is a Putin fan" controversy, such as it is.

              Can someone point me to a tl;dr summary of the pro-Russia pro-Putin things he's said?

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              @George-K said in The darling of Russian state TV:

              summary of the pro-Russia pro-Putin things he's said?

              According to the big headline in wapo he urged people to ask the question, "Why do I hate Putin?"

              Nobody should be allowed to ask this question.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                @Axtremus said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                @LuFins-Dad said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                There has been a weird and strong influence by the Russians in some areas of Conservative media.

                It doesn't make any sense at all for "conservatives" to be fans of this Russian regime. It's completely at odds with what they're supposed to stand for.

                Indeed, the intellectual conservatives should recognize that lots of what the Putin regime does is at odds with conservatism. But the emotional self-proclaimed “conservatives” seem more easily taken in by Putin’s manufactured “strong man” propaganda, more ready to accept unilaterally taking another country by force as a sign of “genius,” well, as long as said “genius” wraps himself in some form of Christian whiteness.

                So, the west by and large cares about Ukraine because Ukraine is mostly white, except for the faux conservatives who care about Russia, because Russia is mostly white. Yes, that checks out as the worldview of lefties vis a vis racism being the root cause of everything wrong.

                The faux conservatives first seems to be attracted to Putin’s “strong man” persona. But Putin is not the only autocrat to project a “strong man” persona, so why the faux conservatives are not similarly attracted to other “strong man” personae? The differentiator may well be that Putin is white wraps himself in Christianity (the Russian Orthodox Church) while the other “strong man” personae (e.g., Erdogan, Duterte, Kim) is not, cannot, or do not. Call it intersectionalism, these emotional conservatives seem attracted to “white Christian strongmen.”

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                Horace
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                @Axtremus said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                @Axtremus said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                @LuFins-Dad said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                There has been a weird and strong influence by the Russians in some areas of Conservative media.

                It doesn't make any sense at all for "conservatives" to be fans of this Russian regime. It's completely at odds with what they're supposed to stand for.

                Indeed, the intellectual conservatives should recognize that lots of what the Putin regime does is at odds with conservatism. But the emotional self-proclaimed “conservatives” seem more easily taken in by Putin’s manufactured “strong man” propaganda, more ready to accept unilaterally taking another country by force as a sign of “genius,” well, as long as said “genius” wraps himself in some form of Christian whiteness.

                So, the west by and large cares about Ukraine because Ukraine is mostly white, except for the faux conservatives who care about Russia, because Russia is mostly white. Yes, that checks out as the worldview of lefties vis a vis racism being the root cause of everything wrong.

                The faux conservatives first seems to be attracted to Putin’s “strong man” persona. But Putin is not the only autocrat to project a “strong man” persona, so why the faux conservatives are not similarly attracted to other “strong man” personae? The differentiator may well be that Putin is white wraps himself in Christianity (the Russian Orthodox Church) while the other “strong man” personae (e.g., Erdogan, Duterte, Kim) is not, cannot, or do not. Call it intersectionalism, these emotional conservatives seem attracted to “white Christian strongmen.”

                Clearly all situations are identical but for skin color. This is controlled scientific proof of racism being the fundamental factor of not only American politics but all of world politics. Yes, that checks out as the lefty worldview.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                  But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                  Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                  Link to video

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                    But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                    Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                    Link to video

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                    #19

                    @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                    Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                    But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                    Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                    Link to video

                    Tucker doesn't care about children with cancer.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                      @Axtremus said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                      @LuFins-Dad said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                      There has been a weird and strong influence by the Russians in some areas of Conservative media.

                      It doesn't make any sense at all for "conservatives" to be fans of this Russian regime. It's completely at odds with what they're supposed to stand for.

                      Indeed, the intellectual conservatives should recognize that lots of what the Putin regime does is at odds with conservatism. But the emotional self-proclaimed “conservatives” seem more easily taken in by Putin’s manufactured “strong man” propaganda, more ready to accept unilaterally taking another country by force as a sign of “genius,” well, as long as said “genius” wraps himself in some form of Christian whiteness.

                      So, the west by and large cares about Ukraine because Ukraine is mostly white, except for the faux conservatives who care about Russia, because Russia is mostly white. Yes, that checks out as the worldview of lefties vis a vis racism being the root cause of everything wrong.

                      The faux conservatives first seems to be attracted to Putin’s “strong man” persona. But Putin is not the only autocrat to project a “strong man” persona, so why the faux conservatives are not similarly attracted to other “strong man” personae? The differentiator may well be that Putin is white wraps himself in Christianity (the Russian Orthodox Church) while the other “strong man” personae (e.g., Erdogan, Duterte, Kim) is not, cannot, or do not. Call it intersectionalism, these emotional conservatives seem attracted to “white Christian strongmen.”

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                      Renauda
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                      @Axtremus

                      The differentiator may well be that Putin is white wraps himself in Christianity (the Russian Orthodox Church)

                      Yes, the dickhead was quoting scripture at his Nuremberg rally today in Moscow glorifying the Russian seizure and annexation of Crimea eight years ago. It was truly repulsive.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                        Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                        But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                        Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                        Link to video

                        Tucker doesn't care about children with cancer.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #21

                        @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                        @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                        Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                        But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                        Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                        Link to video

                        Tucker doesn't care about children with cancer.

                        Once again, I'm left with the impression that the guy didn't finish a single day at high school without having his underpants pulled over his chubby little head.

                        I'm kidding, of course. There's no way he didn't go to a posh little private place where they positively encourage being a douchebag.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                          @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                          Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                          But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                          Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                          Link to video

                          Tucker doesn't care about children with cancer.

                          Once again, I'm left with the impression that the guy didn't finish a single day at high school without having his underpants pulled over his chubby little head.

                          I'm kidding, of course. There's no way he didn't go to a posh little private place where they positively encourage being a douchebag.

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                          Horace
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                          #22

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                          @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                          @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                          Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                          But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                          Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                          Link to video

                          Tucker doesn't care about children with cancer.

                          Once again, I'm left with the impression that the guy didn't finish a single day at high school without having his underpants pulled over his chubby little head.

                          I'm kidding, of course. There's no way he didn't go to a posh little private place where they positively encourage being a douchebag.

                          Well, as wrong as he may be about his opinions about Russia and Ukraine, that particular video was emotionally manipulative idea-free swill for the tribal masses.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                            @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                            @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                            Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                            But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                            Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                            Link to video

                            Tucker doesn't care about children with cancer.

                            Once again, I'm left with the impression that the guy didn't finish a single day at high school without having his underpants pulled over his chubby little head.

                            I'm kidding, of course. There's no way he didn't go to a posh little private place where they positively encourage being a douchebag.

                            Well, as wrong as he may be about his opinions about Russia and Ukraine, that particular video was emotionally manipulative idea-free swill for the tribal masses.

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                            @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                            @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                            @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                            Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                            But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                            Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                            Link to video

                            Tucker doesn't care about children with cancer.

                            Once again, I'm left with the impression that the guy didn't finish a single day at high school without having his underpants pulled over his chubby little head.

                            I'm kidding, of course. There's no way he didn't go to a posh little private place where they positively encourage being a douchebag.

                            Well, as wrong as he may be about his opinions about Russia and Ukraine, that particular video was emotionally manipulative idea-free swill for the tribal masses.

                            Obviously. That goes without saying.

                            He's still a twat.

                            I was only joking

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                              Here's a slightly less hysterical description of Carlson's take on Ukraine

                              (Full disclosure: The Independent newspaper is owned by the wealthy son of a Russian oligarch)

                              https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-ukraine-russia-flashmob-b2037054.html

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                                @Horace said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                                @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                                Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                                But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                                Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                                Link to video

                                Tucker doesn't care about children with cancer.

                                Once again, I'm left with the impression that the guy didn't finish a single day at high school without having his underpants pulled over his chubby little head.

                                I'm kidding, of course. There's no way he didn't go to a posh little private place where they positively encourage being a douchebag.

                                Well, as wrong as he may be about his opinions about Russia and Ukraine, that particular video was emotionally manipulative idea-free swill for the tribal masses.

                                Obviously. That goes without saying.

                                He's still a twat.

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                                Renauda
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                                #25

                                @Doctor-Phibes

                                As far as I’m concerned personalities like Carlson and his loudmouthed counterpart in Russia, Zhirinovsky, are nothing more than media limelight whores. That one is a media talking head and the other is politician is of little consequence. Coming across as Putin stooges is part and parcel of their current clown act. Both have their devoted followers.

                                Turn on the spotlights and show them for what they are; vacuous fools

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Mr. Carlson reports stories nobody else wants.

                                  And he makes a big deal about how he is the only one reporting it.

                                  And he makes a point that the story should be reported.

                                  This fits that MO. Nobody else is asking Why hate Putin?

                                  The story here is that the answer to his question is, for the most part, he shouldn't ask the question.

                                  Give him the answer, Mr. Putin is bad, and let it go.

                                  Another reason is that Ukraine is a huge underdog, everyone loves the underdog. If somehow Russia becomes the underdog, things could change.

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    Mr. Carlson reports stories nobody else wants.

                                    And he makes a big deal about how he is the only one reporting it.

                                    And he makes a point that the story should be reported.

                                    This fits that MO. Nobody else is asking Why hate Putin?

                                    The story here is that the answer to his question is, for the most part, he shouldn't ask the question.

                                    Give him the answer, Mr. Putin is bad, and let it go.

                                    Another reason is that Ukraine is a huge underdog, everyone loves the underdog. If somehow Russia becomes the underdog, things could change.

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                                    @Copper said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                                    Mr. Carlson reports stories nobody else wants.

                                    He used to wear a tie that nobody else wanted.

                                    You know why nobody else wanted it?

                                    Because it made him look like a twat.

                                    The same thing goes for his "commentary" on Ukraine.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                                      But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                                      Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                                      Link to video

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                                      @jon-nyc said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                                      Here’s a compilation from media matters, annoyingly interspersed with war footage.

                                      But you’ll get an idea. He full on said numerous times he supports Russia in the conflict.

                                      Hence the quote from Frum I quoted when he backtracked.

                                      Link to video

                                      Most if not all of the clips of him had a date stamp from 2019 or 2020, or am I mistaken?

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                                        #29

                                        I don’t know. Here’s a cleaner compilation that clearly includes clips from the Biden presidency, so in the past year.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • CopperC Copper

                                          Mr. Carlson reports stories nobody else wants.

                                          And he makes a big deal about how he is the only one reporting it.

                                          And he makes a point that the story should be reported.

                                          This fits that MO. Nobody else is asking Why hate Putin?

                                          The story here is that the answer to his question is, for the most part, he shouldn't ask the question.

                                          Give him the answer, Mr. Putin is bad, and let it go.

                                          Another reason is that Ukraine is a huge underdog, everyone loves the underdog. If somehow Russia becomes the underdog, things could change.

                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          Axtremus
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                                          @Copper said in The darling of Russian state TV:

                                          Mr. Carlson reports stories nobody else wants.

                                          You may have exposed Mr. Carlson’s secret to achieve top viewership ratings!

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