Mitt vs Tulsi

[LuFins Dad]

What she said was pretty much what President Biden's Undersecretary to the State Department testified to Congress. These labs do contain pathogens and do need to be secured and have the pathogens destroyed. Full stop.

Has nothing to do with giving credence to Putin or some fringe conspiracy group.

And in point of fact, the more dipshits run around yelling "She's giving credence to Russian Misinformation and it's treason" the more I start to wonder if there's more to this.

[George K]

So, the current administration is working with Russia to broker an Iran capitulation deal. Does that rise to the level of treason, Senator?

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

So, the current administration is working with Russia to broker an Iran capitulation deal. Does that rise to the level of treason, Senator?

Is that the same Iran that fired a missile into one of our bases in Iraq?

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

Is that the same Iran that fired a missile into one of our bases in Iraq?

*consulate...

But yeah, same Iran.

[Mik]

Still, if the pathogens have not been destroyed and can be released, you've still got WMDs. Do we really need to be reminded of that?

I can't see Gabbards' statements as treason either.

[Doctor Phibes]

The best propaganda takes stuff that is true, and uses it to imply stuff that is false.

And then you get a bunch of people talking about the stuff that's true, and it sounds like they're going along with the stuff that's false.

What Tucker's doing is dumb at best.

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes
Just dumb? Playing right into the Kremlin’s playbook. Carlson’s a stooge.

Gabbard should just know better than to get sucked into Carlson’s agenda.

[Copper]

Mr. Carlson is an American hero.

I'm sure we all applaud his courage in the face of relentless, mindless criticism.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Copper said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

Mr. Carlson is an American hero.

Link to video

[Renauda]

@Copper said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

Mr. Carlson is an American hero.

I'm sure we all applaud his courage in the face of relentless, mindless criticism.

Hero for whom? I do agree though he is a mindless stooge in the finest tradition of yellow journalism.

Yellow journalism :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

[Mik]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

@Copper said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

Mr. Carlson is an American hero.

Link to video

Funny. That was exactly the song that came to mind.

[jon-nyc]

Tucker and I have something in common - we share a disdain for his audience.

[Horace]

I choose open minded understanding and compassion for those raised in different times, surrounded by different mainstream ideas. This path of virtue is not the easy one, but it is the right one.

[George K]

[LuFins Dad]

Can't speak to Tucker Carlson as I have a sneezing fit from all the hairspray every time I see him. I'm just saying that there is nothing inappropriate with Gabbard's statements. Those facilities do need to be secured and the pathogens destroyed, especially if Putin's doing some kind of weird wink and a nod with it.

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

She nails it, though the call to resign is over the top. I don't get where people in the replies are calling her a conspiracy theorist. She laid out simple and documented facts. WTF is wrong with people right now?

[Horace]

"Conspiracy theorist" accusations are boilerplate lefty handbook stuff. We've all been acculturated to giggle at conspiracy theorists, long before our current left vs right divisions became so polarizing. the left has just used the opportunity to mine the giggles from that pre-conceived notion of how ridiculous conspiracy theorists are. Have to hand it to the left, they were ahead of the game recognizing the power of the tribal giggle.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

"Conspiracy theorist" accusations are boilerplate lefty handbook stuff. We've all been acculturated to giggle at conspiracy theorists, long before our current left vs right divisions became so polarizing. the left has just used the opportunity to mine the giggles from that pre-conceived notion of how ridiculous conspiracy theorists are. Have to hand it to the left, they were ahead of the game recognizing the power of the tribal giggle.

Apologies for stating the obvious, but Mitt Romney isn't on the left, and Tulsi Gabbard isn't exactly a conservative.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

@Horace said in Mitt vs Tulsi:

"Conspiracy theorist" accusations are boilerplate lefty handbook stuff. We've all been acculturated to giggle at conspiracy theorists, long before our current left vs right divisions became so polarizing. the left has just used the opportunity to mine the giggles from that pre-conceived notion of how ridiculous conspiracy theorists are. Have to hand it to the left, they were ahead of the game recognizing the power of the tribal giggle.

Apologies for stating the obvious, but Mitt Romney isn't on the left, and Tulsi Gabbard isn't exactly a conservative.

In the context of this conversation, Romney was using the "conspiracy theorist" meme for its political effect, to marginalize a political opponent. It's part of the lefty playbook, but that does not mean its use is relegated to registered Democrats. I'm always eager to point out the conspiracy theorists on the left, for instance. Most obviously the race narrative, which is the largest and most powerful conspiracy theory on the planet. And I am not a registered Democrat.

[Doctor Phibes]

So it's used by both the left and the right.

Also, it's used by people to point out actual conspiracy theorists such as Tucker Carlson (or Glenn Beck if you prefer) as well as the race-obsessed such as NPR.