The Ukraine war thread
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wrote on 17 May 2023, 18:06 last edited by
As I see it...
- USA
- North America
- Tie. South America/Europe
- Australia
- South Pacific, including Japan, the Phillipines and South Korea.
- Everything else.
And past #3, I'll bend like Gumby.
I have an open mind.
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As I see it...
- USA
- North America
- Tie. South America/Europe
- Australia
- South Pacific, including Japan, the Phillipines and South Korea.
- Everything else.
And past #3, I'll bend like Gumby.
I have an open mind.
wrote on 17 May 2023, 18:22 last edited by@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
As I see it...
- USA
- North America
- Tie. South America/Europe
- Australia
- South Pacific, including Japan, the Phillipines and South Korea.
- Everything else.
And past #3, I'll bend like Gumby.
I have an open mind.
I think a lot of people would argue that Russia's machinations have a direct and material impact on numbers 1-3.
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@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
As I see it...
- USA
- North America
- Tie. South America/Europe
- Australia
- South Pacific, including Japan, the Phillipines and South Korea.
- Everything else.
And past #3, I'll bend like Gumby.
I have an open mind.
I think a lot of people would argue that Russia's machinations have a direct and material impact on numbers 1-3.
wrote on 17 May 2023, 19:02 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer You're a little bit wrong. Depending on what Russia will/won't achieve, China will adapt its strategies to what the USA will/won't do.
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@Aqua-Letifer You're a little bit wrong. Depending on what Russia will/won't achieve, China will adapt its strategies to what the USA will/won't do.
wrote on 17 May 2023, 19:02 last edited by@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer You're a little bit wrong. Depending on what Russia will/won't achieve, China will adapt its strategies to what the USA will/won't do.
Well, there's that, too.
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@Aqua-Letifer You're a little bit wrong. Depending on what Russia will/won't achieve, China will adapt its strategies to what the USA will/won't do.
wrote on 17 May 2023, 19:46 last edited by@Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer You're a little bit wrong. Depending on what Russia will/won't achieve, China will adapt its strategies to what the USA will/won't do.
Starting to wonder about China. The Belt and Road looks like it needs suspenders...
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wrote on 17 May 2023, 19:51 last edited by
I think China's plans are somewhat based on an assumption that the US is a power in decline. I think they are wrong in that. Our innate ability to right our own ship is something they lack.
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I think China's plans are somewhat based on an assumption that the US is a power in decline. I think they are wrong in that. Our innate ability to right our own ship is something they lack.
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wrote on 17 May 2023, 22:02 last edited by
Spot on.
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wrote on 21 May 2023, 11:10 last edited by
Bakhmut has fallen to the Russians.
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wrote on 21 May 2023, 16:28 last edited by
The Russians are getting better.
OTOH, Ukranian pilots shocked the USAF recently. After rolling them through a brief F-16 simulator training, the Air Force thinks they can have the Ukrainians flight tested in the F-16 and combat ready in 120 days.
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Bakhmut has fallen to the Russians.
wrote on 21 May 2023, 16:54 last edited by@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
Bakhmut has fallen to the Russians.
It was by all accounts a Pyrrhic victory.
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wrote on 21 May 2023, 17:00 last edited by
Yes, but what it does give them, is a victory, of which they have had very few of late.
It also puts the Russians into artillery range of two larger, more industrialized cities.
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Yes, but what it does give them, is a victory, of which they have had very few of late.
It also puts the Russians into artillery range of two larger, more industrialized cities.
wrote on 21 May 2023, 17:18 last edited by@Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:
It also puts the Russians into artillery range of two larger, more industrialized cities.
"If the enemy is in range, so are you."
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wrote on 21 May 2023, 19:28 last edited by Renauda
Prigozhin and the Kremlin can say what they want and, as the saying in Russian goes, try to make candy out of a turd.
My hunch is that Bakhmut has not fallen to the Russians. Instead the Russians in Bakhmut have been surrounded on all sides by advancing Ukrainian forces.
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Prigozhin and the Kremlin can say what they want and, as the saying in Russian goes, try to make candy out of a turd.
My hunch is that Bakhmut has not fallen to the Russians. Instead the Russians in Bakhmut have been surrounded on all sides by advancing Ukrainian forces.
wrote on 21 May 2023, 23:34 last edited by@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
My hunch is that Bakhmut has not fallen to the Russians. Instead the Russians in Bakhmut have been surrounded on all sides by advancing Ukrainian forces.
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wrote on 23 May 2023, 12:11 last edited by
An exercise in futility
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wrote on 23 May 2023, 18:20 last edited by Mik
Here's where Ukraine is aiming the offensive. Makes perfect sense. All are longer supply lines for the Russians.
