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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by
    #1241

    First criminal cases for Russian conscripts who are refusing to fight:

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/21/first-criminal-case-opened-against-russian-conscripts-refusing-to-fight-a79448

    Elbows up!

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #1242

      They look well equipped:

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • W Offline
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        Wim
        wrote on last edited by
        #1243

        https://warsawinstitute.org/ukraine-launches-assault-on-the-strategic-kinburn-peninsula/
        Step by step...

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #1244

          Ukraine seems to be very adept strategically and tactically. Excellent at cutting Russian resupply routes.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1245

            Maybe he fell out of a window?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Maybe he fell out of a window?

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #1246

              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Maybe he fell out of a window?

              After being poisoned

              I was only joking

              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Maybe he fell out of a window?

                After being poisoned

                George KG Offline
                George KG Offline
                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #1247

                @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Maybe he fell out of a window?

                After being poisoned

                And committing suicide by stabbing himself…five times.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1248

                  Moscow has expended nearly two-thirds of its ammunition reserves

                  The Russian offensive in Ukraine has stalled as Moscow has expended nearly two-thirds of its ammunition reserves, head of Estonian military intelligence Margo Grosberg told Estonian public broadcaster ERR on Nov. 25.

                  “The Russian Federation has used up about two-thirds of the ammunition it has, or slightly less than that,” Grosberg said.

                  Read also: Ukraine urges Russian troops to study rules of surrender
                  According to him, waning ammunition stocks explain a decrease in the offensive activity of Russian troops. He added that "for limited operations and with economical use of ammunition, Russia will have enough for about a month."

                  Estonian intelligence believes that Russia is now stockpiling ammunition – in preparation for a renewed offensive in Spring 2023.

                  Grosberg also noted that Russia is trying to purchase missiles and drones from Iran and North Korea, and is exporting ammunition from Belarus.

                  CNN earlier reported that the Iranian authorities also intend to supply the Kremlin regime with 1,000 short-range surface-to-surface ballistic missiles for the war against Ukraine.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1249

                    GLSDB

                    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/100-mile-strike-weapon-weighed-ukraine-arms-makers-wrestle-with-demand-sources-2022-11-28/

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                      #1250

                      The beginning of the end?

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/oleksiy-yakubin-is-russia-slowly-embracing-realpolitik-in-ukraine/ar-AA14GpWr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=02ceb2cf286348f3ad38048385bcc730

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                      RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                      • MikM Mik

                        The beginning of the end?

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/oleksiy-yakubin-is-russia-slowly-embracing-realpolitik-in-ukraine/ar-AA14GpWr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=02ceb2cf286348f3ad38048385bcc730

                        RenaudaR Offline
                        RenaudaR Offline
                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #1251

                        @Mik

                        I would say more like Churchill’s assessment following Al Alamein and two days into Operation Torch:

                        “The end of the beginning”

                        Link to video

                        Elbows up!

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                          #1252

                          He's not going to give it up without something where he can claim victory. If we want Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, it's going to be a long slog. However painful, from an American perspective I think it's worthwhile to do so. Ukrainians may well have a different opinion.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            He's not going to give it up without something where he can claim victory. If we want Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, it's going to be a long slog. However painful, from an American perspective I think it's worthwhile to do so. Ukrainians may well have a different opinion.

                            RenaudaR Offline
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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1253

                            @Mik

                            No argument from me. If Ukrainians can continue hold out this winter despite ongoing Russian destruction of their energy infrastructure, they will prevail militarily. As for Russia it wins by losing. To quote Timothy Snyder:

                            “Russia wins by losing. Russia really needs to lose this war, and to lose it decisively,” he said. “The whole colonial move towards Ukraine is a distraction, a substitute for the internal changes which Russia really has to make.”

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1254

                              The noose tightens?

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-commits-to-future-ukraine-membership-drums-up-aid/ar-AA14G6V8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a4a055b4943140d49b455ae1c3d3b4d1

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1255

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1256

                                  @darthputin is the best.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1257

                                    What a bizarre conversation.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1258

                                      This smells like propaganda, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Offline
                                        MikM Offline
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1259

                                        I'd be very surprised.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          This smells like propaganda, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.

                                          RenaudaR Offline
                                          RenaudaR Offline
                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1260

                                          @George-K

                                          Likely story. Not even a convincing actor.

                                          Elbows up!

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