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    George K
    wrote on 6 Sept 2022, 01:46 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 7 Sept 2022, 12:28 last edited by George K 9 Jul 2022, 14:35
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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • C Catseye3
        3 Sept 2022, 13:52

        From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 2 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

        "Russian independent polling organization Levada posted survey results on September 1 indicating that while the majority of Russians still support military operations in Ukraine, public support for the war may be gradually declining."

        HOO-yah!

        "Levada stated that the overall support for Russian forces in Ukraine has not changed significantly over the summer, with 76% of the survey’s respondents in favor of the action of Russian forces in Ukraine . . . The polls showed that 44% of respondents were in favor of peace negotiations and that a majority of Russia’s younger segments of the population (18-39-year-olds) favor negotiations. . . . In March of 2022, Levada found that 53% of respondents strongly support Russian military actions in Ukraine but that the percentage of respondents in this category declined to 46% by August.

        "This is a minor deterioration and will not fundamentally impair the Kremlin’s ability to conduct the war. However, declining support and war weariness will likely increasingly impede Russian recruitment and force generation efforts."

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 7 Sept 2022, 14:27 last edited by
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        From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 6 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

        "The International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) September 6 report on the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) described numerous ways in which Russian occupation authorities and the Russian military are jeopardizing the safe operation of the plant. The report does not attempt to determine which party is responsible for the shelling that has damaged the facility and repeatedly calls on “all relevant parties” to take measures to improve the situation.

        "The moderation and apparent neutrality of that language can overshadow the extremely clear articulation of the Russian activities undermining the plant’s safety and the fact that the report attributes no dangerous actions to Ukraine. The IAEA’s report is thus a coded condemnation of Russian moves that have created and are perpetuating the danger of nuclear disaster in Ukraine."

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • C Catseye3
          7 Sept 2022, 14:27

          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 6 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

          "The International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) September 6 report on the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) described numerous ways in which Russian occupation authorities and the Russian military are jeopardizing the safe operation of the plant. The report does not attempt to determine which party is responsible for the shelling that has damaged the facility and repeatedly calls on “all relevant parties” to take measures to improve the situation.

          "The moderation and apparent neutrality of that language can overshadow the extremely clear articulation of the Russian activities undermining the plant’s safety and the fact that the report attributes no dangerous actions to Ukraine. The IAEA’s report is thus a coded condemnation of Russian moves that have created and are perpetuating the danger of nuclear disaster in Ukraine."

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 13:56 last edited by
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          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 7 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

          "Ukrainian forces in southeastern Kharkiv Oblast are likely exploiting Russian force reallocation to the Southern Axis to conduct an opportunistic yet highly effective counteroffensive northwest of Izyum. Ukrainian forces likely used tactical surprise to advance at least 20km into Russian-held territory in eastern Kharkiv Oblast on September 7, recapturing approximately 400 square kilometers of ground."

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            Jolly
            wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 16:54 last edited by
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            https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              8 Sept 2022, 16:54

              https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

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              George K
              wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 18:00 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

              https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

              "As we said, we are not very interested in bridges, we have our own crossings, this does not affect the course of the special military operation in any way,"

              Right.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 18:03 last edited by
                #774

                Maybe they invented a transporter.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 8 Sept 2022, 21:08 last edited by
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                  Island (city) hopping...

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-abandoning-positions-in-kharkiv-counter-offensive-report/ar-AA11BxJG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e865bebcfb2c4c538e39516a85638910

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • C Catseye3
                    8 Sept 2022, 13:56

                    From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 7 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                    "Ukrainian forces in southeastern Kharkiv Oblast are likely exploiting Russian force reallocation to the Southern Axis to conduct an opportunistic yet highly effective counteroffensive northwest of Izyum. Ukrainian forces likely used tactical surprise to advance at least 20km into Russian-held territory in eastern Kharkiv Oblast on September 7, recapturing approximately 400 square kilometers of ground."

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 9 Sept 2022, 15:03 last edited by
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                    From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 8 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                    "Ukrainian successes on the Kharkiv City-Izyum line are creating fissures within the Russian information space and eroding confidence in Russian command to a degree not seen since a failed Russian river crossing in mid-May. Ukrainian military officials announced that Ukrainian forces advanced 50km deep into Russian defensive positions north of Izyum on September 8, but the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) notably did not issue any statement regarding Ukrainian advances in Kharkiv Oblast."

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      George K
                      wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 00:05 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        10 Sept 2022, 00:05

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 02:15 last edited by
                        #778

                        @George-K

                        If that’s accurate, the Ukrainian forces have created a pocket in which they have dangerously exposed flanks. Better hope the Russians are retreating as a Russian counterattack along those two flanks could result in encirclement very quickly.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Wim
                          wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 12:21 last edited by
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                          A little bit hidden, but nevertheless pretty important (From Glavcom.ua)

                          ЗСУ взяли в полон російського підполковника

                          У ході звільнення від окупантів Балаклії на Харківщині українські військові взяли в полон бойовиків рашистського спеціального загону швидкого реагування (СОБР). Як пізніше з’ясувалося, до рук ЗСУ потрапив російський підполковник Андрій Сичевой, який керував угрупуванням «Запад». Інформацію про це підтвердив ексвіцепрезидент НАЕК «Енергоатом» Олександр Ковтуненко.
                          Як раніше повідомлялося, у Балаклії Харківської області ЗСУ взяли в полон кількох ворогів на чолі зі своїм командиром. Серед трофеїв ЗСУ також документи окупантів і форма.

                          Roughly translated: During the liberation from the occupiers of Balaklia in Kharkiv Oblast, the Ukrainian military captured militants of the racist special rapid response unit (SOBR). As it turned out later, the Russian Lt. Col. Andriy Sychevoi, who led the "Zapad" group, fell into the hands of the Armed Forces. Oleksandr Kovtunenko, ex-vice president of Energoatom NAEC, confirmed this information.
                          As previously reported, in Balaklia of the Kharkiv region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine captured several enemies, led by their commander. Among the trophies of the Armed Forces are also documents of the occupiers and a uniform.

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                          • W Wim
                            10 Sept 2022, 12:21

                            A little bit hidden, but nevertheless pretty important (From Glavcom.ua)

                            ЗСУ взяли в полон російського підполковника

                            У ході звільнення від окупантів Балаклії на Харківщині українські військові взяли в полон бойовиків рашистського спеціального загону швидкого реагування (СОБР). Як пізніше з’ясувалося, до рук ЗСУ потрапив російський підполковник Андрій Сичевой, який керував угрупуванням «Запад». Інформацію про це підтвердив ексвіцепрезидент НАЕК «Енергоатом» Олександр Ковтуненко.
                            Як раніше повідомлялося, у Балаклії Харківської області ЗСУ взяли в полон кількох ворогів на чолі зі своїм командиром. Серед трофеїв ЗСУ також документи окупантів і форма.

                            Roughly translated: During the liberation from the occupiers of Balaklia in Kharkiv Oblast, the Ukrainian military captured militants of the racist special rapid response unit (SOBR). As it turned out later, the Russian Lt. Col. Andriy Sychevoi, who led the "Zapad" group, fell into the hands of the Armed Forces. Oleksandr Kovtunenko, ex-vice president of Energoatom NAEC, confirmed this information.
                            As previously reported, in Balaklia of the Kharkiv region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine captured several enemies, led by their commander. Among the trophies of the Armed Forces are also documents of the occupiers and a uniform.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 12:38 last edited by
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                            @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            A little bit hidden, but nevertheless pretty important (From Glavcom.ua)

                            Some skepticism as to whether this is really Sychevoi.

                            This may be one of those "too good to be true" things. I hope it is the case, but I'll remain skeptical - for now.

                            Thread:

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • C Catseye3
                              9 Sept 2022, 15:03

                              From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 8 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                              "Ukrainian successes on the Kharkiv City-Izyum line are creating fissures within the Russian information space and eroding confidence in Russian command to a degree not seen since a failed Russian river crossing in mid-May. Ukrainian military officials announced that Ukrainian forces advanced 50km deep into Russian defensive positions north of Izyum on September 8, but the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) notably did not issue any statement regarding Ukrainian advances in Kharkiv Oblast."

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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 14:03 last edited by
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                              From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 9 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                              "Ukrainian forces have captured an estimated 2,500 square kilometers in Kharkiv Oblast in the Kharkiv area counteroffensive as of September 9. Ukrainian

                              "President Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhnyi stated on September 8 that Ukrainian forces liberated over 1,000 square kilometers between September 1-8 – a day before Ukrainian forces reached the southern approach to Kupyansk and the Oskil River on September 9.[1] Ukrainian forces are likely clearing pockets of disorganized Russian forces caught in the rapid Ukrainian advance to Kupyansk, Izyum, and the Oskil River, given the influx of observed pictures of Russian prisoners of war in the past 48 hours."

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                George K
                                wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 14:13 last edited by
                                #782

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 14:19 last edited by
                                  #783

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 14:54 last edited by Renauda 9 Oct 2022, 14:54
                                    #784

                                    Gradually then suddenly…..

                                    https://samf.substack.com/p/gradually-then-suddenly?r=17wfy3&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 23:40 last edited by
                                      #785

                                      "We are 'regrouping.'"

                                      He spelled "retreating" wrong...

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 10 Sept 2022, 23:44 last edited by
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 11 Sept 2022, 12:09 last edited by George K 9 Nov 2022, 12:11
                                          #787

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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