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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    Maybe this deserves its own thread, but....

    Russian oil chief Maganov dies in 'fall from hospital window'

    *Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:

    The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
    A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
    In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.*

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    #760

    @Doctor-Phibes

    Maganov? I probably met him back in the 90’s when he was head of production and we had fracking crews working on LUKOil sites. His face looks familiar from the photos I’ve seen. I think he was originally Gen. Directir of Langepasneft before LUKOil was formed in the early ‘90s.

    Elbows up!

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

      "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

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      #761

      From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

      "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        #762

        A couple of days ago, Biden asked for another $11B and change for the Ukranians.

        With a worsening economy, how much longer can we throw money into the Ukranian war effort?

        Can Putin wait us out?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Offline
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          #763

          Maybe if we quit throwing money away relieving perfectly good debt....

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

            "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

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            #764

            From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 2 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

            "Russian independent polling organization Levada posted survey results on September 1 indicating that while the majority of Russians still support military operations in Ukraine, public support for the war may be gradually declining."

            HOO-yah!

            "Levada stated that the overall support for Russian forces in Ukraine has not changed significantly over the summer, with 76% of the survey’s respondents in favor of the action of Russian forces in Ukraine . . . The polls showed that 44% of respondents were in favor of peace negotiations and that a majority of Russia’s younger segments of the population (18-39-year-olds) favor negotiations. . . . In March of 2022, Levada found that 53% of respondents strongly support Russian military actions in Ukraine but that the percentage of respondents in this category declined to 46% by August.

            "This is a minor deterioration and will not fundamentally impair the Kremlin’s ability to conduct the war. However, declining support and war weariness will likely increasingly impede Russian recruitment and force generation efforts."

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #765

              image.jpeg

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #766

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #767

                  US retired general predicts Russian surrender in Kherson.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-forces-confused-by-ukraine-strikes-headed-for-surrender-general/ar-AA11upu5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1ccf75505db648a2ba525c1d3e43b7d4

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #768

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #769

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 2 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                        "Russian independent polling organization Levada posted survey results on September 1 indicating that while the majority of Russians still support military operations in Ukraine, public support for the war may be gradually declining."

                        HOO-yah!

                        "Levada stated that the overall support for Russian forces in Ukraine has not changed significantly over the summer, with 76% of the survey’s respondents in favor of the action of Russian forces in Ukraine . . . The polls showed that 44% of respondents were in favor of peace negotiations and that a majority of Russia’s younger segments of the population (18-39-year-olds) favor negotiations. . . . In March of 2022, Levada found that 53% of respondents strongly support Russian military actions in Ukraine but that the percentage of respondents in this category declined to 46% by August.

                        "This is a minor deterioration and will not fundamentally impair the Kremlin’s ability to conduct the war. However, declining support and war weariness will likely increasingly impede Russian recruitment and force generation efforts."

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                        From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 6 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                        "The International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) September 6 report on the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) described numerous ways in which Russian occupation authorities and the Russian military are jeopardizing the safe operation of the plant. The report does not attempt to determine which party is responsible for the shelling that has damaged the facility and repeatedly calls on “all relevant parties” to take measures to improve the situation.

                        "The moderation and apparent neutrality of that language can overshadow the extremely clear articulation of the Russian activities undermining the plant’s safety and the fact that the report attributes no dangerous actions to Ukraine. The IAEA’s report is thus a coded condemnation of Russian moves that have created and are perpetuating the danger of nuclear disaster in Ukraine."

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 6 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                          "The International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) September 6 report on the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) described numerous ways in which Russian occupation authorities and the Russian military are jeopardizing the safe operation of the plant. The report does not attempt to determine which party is responsible for the shelling that has damaged the facility and repeatedly calls on “all relevant parties” to take measures to improve the situation.

                          "The moderation and apparent neutrality of that language can overshadow the extremely clear articulation of the Russian activities undermining the plant’s safety and the fact that the report attributes no dangerous actions to Ukraine. The IAEA’s report is thus a coded condemnation of Russian moves that have created and are perpetuating the danger of nuclear disaster in Ukraine."

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                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 7 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                          "Ukrainian forces in southeastern Kharkiv Oblast are likely exploiting Russian force reallocation to the Southern Axis to conduct an opportunistic yet highly effective counteroffensive northwest of Izyum. Ukrainian forces likely used tactical surprise to advance at least 20km into Russian-held territory in eastern Kharkiv Oblast on September 7, recapturing approximately 400 square kilometers of ground."

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #772

                            https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

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                              George K
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                              #773

                              @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

                              "As we said, we are not very interested in bridges, we have our own crossings, this does not affect the course of the special military operation in any way,"

                              Right.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                Maybe they invented a transporter.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • JollyJ Offline
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #775

                                  Island (city) hopping...

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-abandoning-positions-in-kharkiv-counter-offensive-report/ar-AA11BxJG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e865bebcfb2c4c538e39516a85638910

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                    From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 7 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                    "Ukrainian forces in southeastern Kharkiv Oblast are likely exploiting Russian force reallocation to the Southern Axis to conduct an opportunistic yet highly effective counteroffensive northwest of Izyum. Ukrainian forces likely used tactical surprise to advance at least 20km into Russian-held territory in eastern Kharkiv Oblast on September 7, recapturing approximately 400 square kilometers of ground."

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #776

                                    From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 8 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                    "Ukrainian successes on the Kharkiv City-Izyum line are creating fissures within the Russian information space and eroding confidence in Russian command to a degree not seen since a failed Russian river crossing in mid-May. Ukrainian military officials announced that Ukrainian forces advanced 50km deep into Russian defensive positions north of Izyum on September 8, but the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) notably did not issue any statement regarding Ukrainian advances in Kharkiv Oblast."

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #777

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #778

                                        @George-K

                                        If that’s accurate, the Ukrainian forces have created a pocket in which they have dangerously exposed flanks. Better hope the Russians are retreating as a Russian counterattack along those two flanks could result in encirclement very quickly.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          #779

                                          A little bit hidden, but nevertheless pretty important (From Glavcom.ua)

                                          ЗСУ взяли в полон російського підполковника

                                          У ході звільнення від окупантів Балаклії на Харківщині українські військові взяли в полон бойовиків рашистського спеціального загону швидкого реагування (СОБР). Як пізніше з’ясувалося, до рук ЗСУ потрапив російський підполковник Андрій Сичевой, який керував угрупуванням «Запад». Інформацію про це підтвердив ексвіцепрезидент НАЕК «Енергоатом» Олександр Ковтуненко.
                                          Як раніше повідомлялося, у Балаклії Харківської області ЗСУ взяли в полон кількох ворогів на чолі зі своїм командиром. Серед трофеїв ЗСУ також документи окупантів і форма.

                                          Roughly translated: During the liberation from the occupiers of Balaklia in Kharkiv Oblast, the Ukrainian military captured militants of the racist special rapid response unit (SOBR). As it turned out later, the Russian Lt. Col. Andriy Sychevoi, who led the "Zapad" group, fell into the hands of the Armed Forces. Oleksandr Kovtunenko, ex-vice president of Energoatom NAEC, confirmed this information.
                                          As previously reported, in Balaklia of the Kharkiv region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine captured several enemies, led by their commander. Among the trophies of the Armed Forces are also documents of the occupiers and a uniform.

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