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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @George-K

    Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

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    Catseye3
    wrote on last edited by
    #759

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

    Cats, writing down mudak.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      Maybe this deserves its own thread, but....

      Russian oil chief Maganov dies in 'fall from hospital window'

      *Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:

      The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
      A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
      In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.*

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #760

      @Doctor-Phibes

      Maganov? I probably met him back in the 90’s when he was head of production and we had fracking crews working on LUKOil sites. His face looks familiar from the photos I’ve seen. I think he was originally Gen. Directir of Langepasneft before LUKOil was formed in the early ‘90s.

      Elbows up!

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

        "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

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        Catseye3
        wrote on last edited by
        #761

        From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

        "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #762

          A couple of days ago, Biden asked for another $11B and change for the Ukranians.

          With a worsening economy, how much longer can we throw money into the Ukranian war effort?

          Can Putin wait us out?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #763

            Maybe if we quit throwing money away relieving perfectly good debt....

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

              "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

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              #764

              From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 2 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

              "Russian independent polling organization Levada posted survey results on September 1 indicating that while the majority of Russians still support military operations in Ukraine, public support for the war may be gradually declining."

              HOO-yah!

              "Levada stated that the overall support for Russian forces in Ukraine has not changed significantly over the summer, with 76% of the survey’s respondents in favor of the action of Russian forces in Ukraine . . . The polls showed that 44% of respondents were in favor of peace negotiations and that a majority of Russia’s younger segments of the population (18-39-year-olds) favor negotiations. . . . In March of 2022, Levada found that 53% of respondents strongly support Russian military actions in Ukraine but that the percentage of respondents in this category declined to 46% by August.

              "This is a minor deterioration and will not fundamentally impair the Kremlin’s ability to conduct the war. However, declining support and war weariness will likely increasingly impede Russian recruitment and force generation efforts."

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #765

                image.jpeg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #766

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    #767

                    US retired general predicts Russian surrender in Kherson.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-forces-confused-by-ukraine-strikes-headed-for-surrender-general/ar-AA11upu5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1ccf75505db648a2ba525c1d3e43b7d4

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #768

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by George K
                        #769

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 2 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                          "Russian independent polling organization Levada posted survey results on September 1 indicating that while the majority of Russians still support military operations in Ukraine, public support for the war may be gradually declining."

                          HOO-yah!

                          "Levada stated that the overall support for Russian forces in Ukraine has not changed significantly over the summer, with 76% of the survey’s respondents in favor of the action of Russian forces in Ukraine . . . The polls showed that 44% of respondents were in favor of peace negotiations and that a majority of Russia’s younger segments of the population (18-39-year-olds) favor negotiations. . . . In March of 2022, Levada found that 53% of respondents strongly support Russian military actions in Ukraine but that the percentage of respondents in this category declined to 46% by August.

                          "This is a minor deterioration and will not fundamentally impair the Kremlin’s ability to conduct the war. However, declining support and war weariness will likely increasingly impede Russian recruitment and force generation efforts."

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                          Catseye3
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                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 6 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                          "The International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) September 6 report on the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) described numerous ways in which Russian occupation authorities and the Russian military are jeopardizing the safe operation of the plant. The report does not attempt to determine which party is responsible for the shelling that has damaged the facility and repeatedly calls on “all relevant parties” to take measures to improve the situation.

                          "The moderation and apparent neutrality of that language can overshadow the extremely clear articulation of the Russian activities undermining the plant’s safety and the fact that the report attributes no dangerous actions to Ukraine. The IAEA’s report is thus a coded condemnation of Russian moves that have created and are perpetuating the danger of nuclear disaster in Ukraine."

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 6 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                            "The International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) September 6 report on the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) described numerous ways in which Russian occupation authorities and the Russian military are jeopardizing the safe operation of the plant. The report does not attempt to determine which party is responsible for the shelling that has damaged the facility and repeatedly calls on “all relevant parties” to take measures to improve the situation.

                            "The moderation and apparent neutrality of that language can overshadow the extremely clear articulation of the Russian activities undermining the plant’s safety and the fact that the report attributes no dangerous actions to Ukraine. The IAEA’s report is thus a coded condemnation of Russian moves that have created and are perpetuating the danger of nuclear disaster in Ukraine."

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                            Catseye3
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                            From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 7 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                            "Ukrainian forces in southeastern Kharkiv Oblast are likely exploiting Russian force reallocation to the Southern Axis to conduct an opportunistic yet highly effective counteroffensive northwest of Izyum. Ukrainian forces likely used tactical surprise to advance at least 20km into Russian-held territory in eastern Kharkiv Oblast on September 7, recapturing approximately 400 square kilometers of ground."

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #772

                              https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #773

                                @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rebuilding-bridges-kherson-counteroffensive-antonovsky-1740292

                                "As we said, we are not very interested in bridges, we have our own crossings, this does not affect the course of the special military operation in any way,"

                                Right.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #774

                                  Maybe they invented a transporter.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #775

                                    Island (city) hopping...

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-abandoning-positions-in-kharkiv-counter-offensive-report/ar-AA11BxJG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e865bebcfb2c4c538e39516a85638910

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                      From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 7 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                      "Ukrainian forces in southeastern Kharkiv Oblast are likely exploiting Russian force reallocation to the Southern Axis to conduct an opportunistic yet highly effective counteroffensive northwest of Izyum. Ukrainian forces likely used tactical surprise to advance at least 20km into Russian-held territory in eastern Kharkiv Oblast on September 7, recapturing approximately 400 square kilometers of ground."

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                                      Catseye3
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #776

                                      From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 8 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                      "Ukrainian successes on the Kharkiv City-Izyum line are creating fissures within the Russian information space and eroding confidence in Russian command to a degree not seen since a failed Russian river crossing in mid-May. Ukrainian military officials announced that Ukrainian forces advanced 50km deep into Russian defensive positions north of Izyum on September 8, but the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) notably did not issue any statement regarding Ukrainian advances in Kharkiv Oblast."

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #777

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

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                                          Renauda
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                                          #778

                                          @George-K

                                          If that’s accurate, the Ukrainian forces have created a pocket in which they have dangerously exposed flanks. Better hope the Russians are retreating as a Russian counterattack along those two flanks could result in encirclement very quickly.

                                          Elbows up!

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