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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Mik That’s Dracist.

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    #750

    @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Mik That’s Dracist.

    What? Ukrainian is not a race.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 26 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

      "Russian forces did not make any claimed or assessed territorial gains in Ukraine on August 26, 2022, for the first time since August 18, 2022. However, Russian forces still conducted limited and unsuccessful ground attacks on the Eastern Axis on August 26.

      "The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) stated that unspecified actors (but almost certainly Russian forces) reconnected part of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) to the Ukrainian power grid on August 26."

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      #751

      From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

      "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • MikM Offline
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        #752

        An army without supplies is just a campout.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          An army without supplies is just a campout.

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          #753

          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

          An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

          There.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

            An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

            There.

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            Renauda
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            #754

            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

            An army without supplies is just a limited-duration campout.

            There.

            I would suggest that it is a camped out mob spiralling into anarchy.

            Elbows up!

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              George K
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              #755

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

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                #756

                @George-K

                Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

                Elbows up!

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                  Maybe this deserves its own thread, but....

                  Russian oil chief Maganov dies in 'fall from hospital window'

                  *Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:

                  The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
                  A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
                  In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.*

                  I was only joking

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                    wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                    #758

                    "The company confirmed his death but said only that Maganov, 67, had "passed away following a severe illness".

                    Acute defenestrationitis.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @George-K

                      Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

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                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Voronezh is a good place for the mudak.

                      Cats, writing down mudak.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        Maybe this deserves its own thread, but....

                        Russian oil chief Maganov dies in 'fall from hospital window'

                        *Several Russian energy oligarchs have died in unusual circumstances in recent months:

                        The body of millionaire Novatek former manager Sergei Protosenya was found alongside his wife and daughter at a Spanish villa in April
                        A former vice-president of Gazprombank, Vladislav Avayev, was found dead with his wife and daughter in their Moscow flat, also in April
                        In May, a former Lukoil tycoon Alexander Subbotin died of heart failure, reportedly after seeking alternative treatment from a shaman.*

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #760

                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        Maganov? I probably met him back in the 90’s when he was head of production and we had fracking crews working on LUKOil sites. His face looks familiar from the photos I’ve seen. I think he was originally Gen. Directir of Langepasneft before LUKOil was formed in the early ‘90s.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Aug 30 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                          "Ukrainian forces began striking Russian pontoon ferries across the Dnipro River on August 29, which is consistent with the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive. The effects of destroying ferries will likely be more ephemeral than those of putting bridges out of commission, so attacking them makes sense in conjunction with active ground operations. Ukrainian military officials confirmed that Ukrainian forces destroyed a Russian pontoon-ferry crossing in Lvove, approximately 16km west of Nova Kakhovka on the right bank of the Dnipro River on August 29. Ukrainian and Russian sources have also reported that Ukrainian forces struck a pontoon crossing constructed out of barges near the Antonivsky Road Bridge."

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                          From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                          "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            Jolly
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                            #762

                            A couple of days ago, Biden asked for another $11B and change for the Ukranians.

                            With a worsening economy, how much longer can we throw money into the Ukranian war effort?

                            Can Putin wait us out?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #763

                              Maybe if we quit throwing money away relieving perfectly good debt....

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 1 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                "Russian President Vladimir Putin reiterated his false framing of Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine as a defensive operation to protect Russia on September 1. During a meeting with schoolchildren in Kaliningrad, Putin stated that the purpose of the “special military operation” is to eliminate the “anti-Russian enclave” that is forming in Ukraine and is an existential threat to the Russian state. Putin similarly invoked the concept of an “anti-Russia” in his February 24 speech declaring a “special operation” in Ukraine. Putin’s reiteration of an “anti-Russian” entity that must be defeated militarily to defend Russia reaffirms his maximalist intentions for Ukraine and is likely intended to set the information conditions to call for further Russian efforts and force generation going into the fall and winter of this year."

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                                From the Institute for the Study of War's Sept 2 Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment:

                                "Russian independent polling organization Levada posted survey results on September 1 indicating that while the majority of Russians still support military operations in Ukraine, public support for the war may be gradually declining."

                                HOO-yah!

                                "Levada stated that the overall support for Russian forces in Ukraine has not changed significantly over the summer, with 76% of the survey’s respondents in favor of the action of Russian forces in Ukraine . . . The polls showed that 44% of respondents were in favor of peace negotiations and that a majority of Russia’s younger segments of the population (18-39-year-olds) favor negotiations. . . . In March of 2022, Levada found that 53% of respondents strongly support Russian military actions in Ukraine but that the percentage of respondents in this category declined to 46% by August.

                                "This is a minor deterioration and will not fundamentally impair the Kremlin’s ability to conduct the war. However, declining support and war weariness will likely increasingly impede Russian recruitment and force generation efforts."

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  George K
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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    #766

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      US retired general predicts Russian surrender in Kherson.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-forces-confused-by-ukraine-strikes-headed-for-surrender-general/ar-AA11upu5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1ccf75505db648a2ba525c1d3e43b7d4

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        George K
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                                        #768

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          #769

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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