The Ukraine war thread
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 14:19 last edited by
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Nukes threatened if Sweden or Finland join NATO.
My question is, what about the interim period between NATO application and membership? I know they're working on security guarantees but how is the rest of the world going to view an attack from Russia during this interim period?
wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 16:24 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Nukes threatened if Sweden or Finland join NATO.
Further to my earlier response, the Russians are being, as always, more than just a little disingenuous with this threat. The fact is that Russia has for some years now, already deployed nuclear weapons in the Kaliningrad region (formerly Konigsburg, East Prussia) of the Baltic Sea.
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 17:13 last edited by Renauda
Has that been confirmed?
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Has that been confirmed?
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 17:43 last edited by Mik
Likely not, but it's a lovely thought. It makes me happy, kind of like sunflowers and blue skies.
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 21:29 last edited by
Regarding the sinking of "The Moskva..."
Brit Hume tweeted:
"Russia, of course, said it was an onboard fire that ignited ammunition, not Ukrainian missiles. Then Russia said it would retaliate. Against whom? The god of fire?"
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 21:37 last edited by
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Regarding the sinking of "The Moskva..."
Brit Hume tweeted:
"Russia, of course, said it was an onboard fire that ignited ammunition, not Ukrainian missiles. Then Russia said it would retaliate. Against whom? The god of fire?"
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 22:03 last edited by
Lists of weapons he wants.... Zelensky says it's Groundhog Day.
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 22:54 last edited by
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
This means WAR!
(ffs)
Conscription will really improve the quality of the Russian forces no end
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 22:58 last edited by
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 23:00 last edited by
Firing missiles from a ship in the Black Sea ≠ War.
Sinking said ship with cruise missile = War.
What kind of sick thinking is this?
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Firing missiles from a ship in the Black Sea ≠ War.
Sinking said ship with cruise missile = War.
What kind of sick thinking is this?
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 23:34 last edited by
Ukrainian officials have run more than 8,600 facial recognition searches on dead or captured Russian soldiers in the 50 days since Moscow’s invasion began, using the scans to identify bodies and contact hundreds of their families in what may be one of the most gruesome applications of the technology to date.
The country’s IT Army, a volunteer force of hackers and activists that takes its direction from the Ukrainian government, says it has used those identifications to inform the families of the deaths of 582 Russians, including by sending them photos of the abandoned corpses.
The Ukrainians champion the use of face-scanning software from the U.S. tech firm Clearview AI as a brutal but effective way to stir up dissent inside Russia, discourage other fighters and hasten an end to a devastating war.
The West’s solidarity with Ukraine makes it tempting to support such a radical act designed to capitalize on family grief, said Stephanie Hare, a surveillance researcher in London. But contacting soldiers’ parents, she said, is “classic psychological warfare” and could set a dangerous new standard for future conflicts.
“If it were Russian soldiers doing this with Ukrainian mothers, we might say, ‘Oh, my God, that’s barbaric,’ ” she said. “And is it actually working? Or is it making them say: ‘Look at these lawless, cruel Ukrainians, doing this to our boys?’ ”
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Ukrainian officials have run more than 8,600 facial recognition searches on dead or captured Russian soldiers in the 50 days since Moscow’s invasion began, using the scans to identify bodies and contact hundreds of their families in what may be one of the most gruesome applications of the technology to date.
The country’s IT Army, a volunteer force of hackers and activists that takes its direction from the Ukrainian government, says it has used those identifications to inform the families of the deaths of 582 Russians, including by sending them photos of the abandoned corpses.
The Ukrainians champion the use of face-scanning software from the U.S. tech firm Clearview AI as a brutal but effective way to stir up dissent inside Russia, discourage other fighters and hasten an end to a devastating war.
The West’s solidarity with Ukraine makes it tempting to support such a radical act designed to capitalize on family grief, said Stephanie Hare, a surveillance researcher in London. But contacting soldiers’ parents, she said, is “classic psychological warfare” and could set a dangerous new standard for future conflicts.
“If it were Russian soldiers doing this with Ukrainian mothers, we might say, ‘Oh, my God, that’s barbaric,’ ” she said. “And is it actually working? Or is it making them say: ‘Look at these lawless, cruel Ukrainians, doing this to our boys?’ ”
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wrote on 15 Apr 2022, 23:49 last edited by
There is a point to be made, but let’s keep in mind who started the barbarity.
