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The Ukraine war thread

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #3063

    Yeah, but still fun to watch and imagine.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • MikM Mik

      Yeah, but still fun to watch and imagine.

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by
      #3064

      @Mik

      Well if that’s the case….

      Link to video

      Elbows up!

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      • W Do not disturb
        W Do not disturb
        Wim
        wrote on last edited by
        #3065

        Interesting read:

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/world/europe/russia-putin-aide-dmitri-kozak-ukraine-war.html

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote last edited by Renauda
          #3066

          An acquaintance of mine in Kyiv just sent me the following status update via FB Messenger:

          I have power. I'm fully charged on all my devices and I'm as charged as I can be to deal with the other realities of life.

          Some time ago I wrote that Putin calculates one more massive missile strike to kill civilians and we'll tap out. And he was wrong. He's calculated that he can freeze us out this winter and we'll capitulate. He's wrong.

          It's hard to be in Kyiv now but the temperatures will warm and the ice will melt and we will still not have fucking capitulated.

          Elbows up!

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          • taiwan_girlT Offline
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            taiwan_girl
            wrote last edited by
            #3067

            Unfortunately, more of the same. :(. Though there is the possibility of more talks on Feb 1.

            Ukraine and Russia ended a second day of US-brokered talks in Abu Dhabi on Jan 24 without a deal but with more talks expected next weekend, even as overnight Russian airstrikes knocked out power for over a million Ukrainians amid subzero winter cold.

            Statements after the conclusion of the talks did not indicate that any agreements had been reached, but Moscow and Kyiv both said they were open to further dialogue.

            https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-brokered-peace-talks-break-off-without-deal-after-overnight-russian-bombardment-of-ukraine

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            • MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote last edited by
              #3068

              Not sure what to think of this. Sounds very complicated.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-signs-off-on-ukraine-security-guarantee/ar-AA1UZKFy

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • MikM Mik

                Not sure what to think of this. Sounds very complicated.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-signs-off-on-ukraine-security-guarantee/ar-AA1UZKFy

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                wrote last edited by
                #3069

                @Mik

                This

                A less reported aspect to security deals is that Russia is also seeking a security deal for itself, according to bne IntelliNews sources in Moscow. Putin faces a similar problem. Russian President Vladimir Putin is keen to avoid that further down the line a new Ukrainian president ties up with a new US administration that jointly decides to retake the five regions occupied and annexed by Moscow in the current war by military force. As a result, the Kremlin has been demanding not just the de facto recognition of Russia’s sovereignty over the regions, but de jura recognition as well. No details on this point have been released to the public so far..

                A short word. No.

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote last edited by
                  #3070

                  Nyet.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    Renauda
                    wrote last edited by
                    #3071

                    De jure recognition would tell the world that launching a war of aggression in order to seize your neighbour’s sovereign territory is legitimate and acceptable. No US President recognized the Soviet annexation of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia following WWII. Likewise, the civilized world of today should not recognize the Russian occupation and annexation of any sovereign territory of Ukraine as it was prior to 2014.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
                      wrote last edited by
                      #3072

                      Wholly agree.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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