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  • MikM Offline
    MikM Offline
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #2358

    What we are learning from the Ukrainians

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-fighter-pilots-are-using-cold-war-skills-the-west-deemphasized-decades-ago-but-may-need-again-former-us-pilot-says/ar-AA1xIyUe

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #2359

      And I assume the Norks and Chinese are learning from the Russians.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • W Offline
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        Wim
        wrote on last edited by
        #2360

        Trump meeting Putin, an opinion:

        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/01/27/negotiations-with-trump-are-a-win-win-for-the-kremlin-a87763

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #2361

          Putin refuses to face Zelensky directly in any armistice negotiations:

          "If [Zelensky] wants to participate in the negotiations, I will send people to take part," Putin said in comments to state TV journalist Pavel Zarubin, calling the Ukrainian leader "illegitimate" since his presidential term expired last year during martial law.

          Putin will stop at nothing to pit Zelenskyi against Trump in the negotiation process. This is only his opening gambit salvo.

          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/01/29/putin-says-ukraine-peace-talks-possible-but-not-with-zelensky-a87775

          Elbows up!

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #2362

            Yep. That's exactly what he's doing.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #2363

              The Kremlin continues to win the hearts and minds of Ukrainians:

              Russia launched a large-scale attack on several regions overnight, hitting residential buildings in Odesa, Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia, Presidential Office head Andriy Yermak said. "Attacks on residential buildings, civilians, typical tactics of the Russian army," he wrote on Telegram.

              https://kyivindependent.com/at-least-3-dead-10-injured-in-poltava-after-russia-attacks-residential-building/

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #2364

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/is-russia-s-war-machine-finally-facing-bankruptcy/ar-AA1yj3U5

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #2365

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0rqj171zzvo

                  The leader of a pro-Russian paramilitary group in eastern Ukraine has died in hospital after being injured in an explosion in Moscow on Monday morning, Russian media have said.

                  Armen Sargsyan, the leader of the "Arbat" battalion, was severely injured following a blast in the entrance hall of a residential building in north-west Moscow, 12km (7 miles) from the Kremlin.

                  He was evacuated to a hospital by helicopter and placed in intensive care after the explosion, but eventually succumbed to his injuries, according to usually reliable Telegram sources.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #2366

                    Too bad. I don’t feel the least bit sorry.

                    Slava Ukraini

                    Elbows up!

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #2367

                      In Moscow. How about that.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • W Offline
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                        Wim
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #2368

                        But-but-but his friend Putin wants them too...

                        https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/trump-says-he-wants-ukraine-supply-us-with-rare-earths-2025-02-03/

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #2369

                          @Wim

                          Zelenskyi should consider offering them to Trump in exchange for becoming the 51st state. He offered that option - we also
                          have huge untapped reserves of rare earths- to us just a few hours back, but we refused.

                          Zelenskyi might just take him up on the offer. Under the present circumstances, if I were Zelenskyi, I would give it serious consideration. Certainly a long term end to the war and one the EU would be perfectly ammenable.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @Wim

                            Zelenskyi should consider offering them to Trump in exchange for becoming the 51st state. He offered that option - we also
                            have huge untapped reserves of rare earths- to us just a few hours back, but we refused.

                            Zelenskyi might just take him up on the offer. Under the present circumstances, if I were Zelenskyi, I would give it serious consideration. Certainly a long term end to the war and one the EU would be perfectly ammenable.

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                            Wim
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #2370

                            @Renauda My thought as well.

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                            • W Wim

                              @Renauda My thought as well.

                              RenaudaR Offline
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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #2371

                              @Wim

                              I was being facetious. Still, though……it would send Putin into an apoplectic fit.

                              Go for it!

                              😆

                              Elbows up!

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                              • W Offline
                                W Offline
                                Wim
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2372

                                Well, there is Pokrovsk...
                                Trump better hurry.

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                                • RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #2373

                                  Something is coming down between the Kremlin and Washington in weeks ahead:

                                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/06/putin-trump-talks-expected-in-february-or-march-senior-russian-lawmaker-says-a87894

                                  Curious whether Washington sees fit to ensure that Zelenskyi will be an in-person part and at the table throughout the process.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2374

                                    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/07/russia-withdraws-north-korea-troops-kursk-deaths-ukraine-war

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #2375

                                      According to Kyiv, the Norks are back again for more punishment:

                                      Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Friday that North Korean troops were back on the front line in Russia's Kursk region, after reports Moscow had withdrawn them due to heavy losses.

                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/07/zelensky-says-north-korean-troops-back-on-russian-front-line-a87915

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by Mik
                                        #2376

                                        Less mouths for Kim to feed. Not that he feeds them...

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2377

                                          Hegseth begins laying out US position to bring about an armistice:

                                          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0pz3er37jo

                                          Elbows up!

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