The Ukraine war thread
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Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?
wrote on 21 Oct 2024, 00:50 last edited byCurrent Western sanctions tend to be too broad and sporadic to cripple Russian defense production. A better approach would be a mixture of economic sanctions and diplomatic pressure focused on Russia's artillery supply chain, concluded the report. "A concerted approach, with additional resources dedicated to enforcement and disruption, will have a greater chance of success."
I wonder how effective that would be? Seems like it would just like we are doing now. I dont know if more diplomatic pressure on countries like China would make a difference.
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wrote on 22 Oct 2024, 16:44 last edited by
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wrote on 22 Oct 2024, 17:52 last edited by
If this isn’t a war crime I don’t know what would be.
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wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 12:59 last edited by
Chinese mock Russian fighter jet
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wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 16:31 last edited by Renauda 11 May 2024, 19:08
Meanwhile in Europe, Russian mischief is suspected at the root of combusting courier packages in transit:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07912lxx33o
Peace loving Russian foreign policy at play.
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 23:30 last edited by Renauda 11 Aug 2024, 23:31
Another Russian general killed. Apparently an especially nasty one at that:
Major General Pavel Klimenko…. A Russian army general in charge of a unit alleged to have tortured its own soldiers and murdered a U.S. citizen was reportedly killed in Ukraine this week, becoming the eighth Russian general to die since President Vladimir Putin ordered the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
I wonder if he was fragged?
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 23:31 last edited by Mik 11 Aug 2024, 23:45
I see signs saying Hell is real. In his case let us hope so.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 06:17 last edited by
I hope he died “not well”.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 13:30 last edited by
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
I hope he died “not well”.
Love that scene from the Bond movie.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 15:21 last edited by
More on the Russian connection to incendiary packages on cargo and passenger aircraft:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/incendiary-devices-plot-canada-russia-1.7378613
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 15:47 last edited by
Possible early indicator of the direction the Trump Admin will take on the war in Ukraine:
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Possible early indicator of the direction the Trump Admin will take on the war in Ukraine:
wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 16:03 last edited by@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Possible early indicator of the direction the Trump Admin will take on the war in Ukraine:
Thoughts on that? Ukraine doesn't seem to be doing very well lately.
Though I did read (and can't find) that the Nork soldiers didn't stand up well. Perhaps too much pr0n?
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 16:09 last edited by
Can't rebuild the Russian empire without Crimea, after all.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 16:15 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
Can't rebuild the Russian empire without Crimea, after all.
Or Alaska ...
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 16:19 last edited by
Guns or butter. If we support ceding Ukrainian territory, how long until Russia rebuilds and attacks again?
If we agree to this all sanctions must remain in place and Russia be a true pariah in the world.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 16:24 last edited by
How long?
Gosh, Putin has been busy since he came to power. It's happening in your face right now.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 16:35 last edited by
The latest Woodward book offered a lot of insight as to how he thinks. I recommend it.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Possible early indicator of the direction the Trump Admin will take on the war in Ukraine:
Thoughts on that? Ukraine doesn't seem to be doing very well lately.
Though I did read (and can't find) that the Nork soldiers didn't stand up well. Perhaps too much pr0n?
wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 16:44 last edited by Renauda 11 Sept 2024, 17:58Thoughts on that?
Everything hinges on what Russia is prepared to negotiate in good faith and how badly it wants economic sanctions reduced or altogether lifted.
I do however think and agree that the Crimea is irretrievably lost to Russia. As for the occupied territories in the Donbas, they are little more than minefields and rubble. The cost of remediation would be astronomical and hardly worth Kyiv trying to regain them at the negotiating table.
In any event, Putin has already and irrevocably lost the long term peace. The question is whether he understands the implications of that fact or even cares about them.
Elbows up!
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 18:03 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:
Can't rebuild the Russian empire without Crimea, after all.
So the non-serious outcome where Crimea goes back to Ukraine would be proof that Trump is not actually a Russian ally. I am sure Trump will face many non-serious requirements in order to be proven a worthy American leader.
