The Ukraine war thread

[Renauda]

@taiwan_girl

Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

Yes I do.

[Mik]

Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-west-is-trying-to-starve-the-wrong-part-of-russia-s-war-machine-defense-experts-say/ar-AA1sAkG9

[taiwan_girl]

@Mik

Current Western sanctions tend to be too broad and sporadic to cripple Russian defense production. A better approach would be a mixture of economic sanctions and diplomatic pressure focused on Russia's artillery supply chain, concluded the report. "A concerted approach, with additional resources dedicated to enforcement and disruption, will have a greater chance of success."

I wonder how effective that would be? Seems like it would just like we are doing now. I dont know if more diplomatic pressure on countries like China would make a difference.

[Mik]

Bomb the vodka!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-alcohol-empire-suffers-devastating-quadruple-blow/ar-AA1sIq8h

[jon-nyc]

If this isn’t a war crime I don’t know what would be.

[Mik]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-generals-are-turning-on-each-other/ar-AA1tfCNb

[Wim]

Chinese mock Russian fighter jet
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/41667

[Renauda]

Meanwhile in Europe, Russian mischief is suspected at the root of combusting courier packages in transit:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/05/moscow-behind-incendiary-packages-sent-across-europe-lithuanian-official-says-a86909

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07912lxx33o

Peace loving Russian foreign policy at play.

[Renauda]

Another Russian general killed. Apparently an especially nasty one at that:

Major General Pavel Klimenko…. A Russian army general in charge of a unit alleged to have tortured its own soldiers and murdered a U.S. citizen was reportedly killed in Ukraine this week, becoming the eighth Russian general to die since President Vladimir Putin ordered the full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/11/08/russian-general-alleged-to-have-organized-torture-camp-killed-in-ukraine-reports-a86946

I wonder if he was fragged?

[Mik]

I see signs saying Hell is real. In his case let us hope so.

[Renauda]

I hope he died “not well”.

[George K]

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

I hope he died “not well”.

Love that scene from the Bond movie.

[Renauda]

More on the Russian connection to incendiary packages on cargo and passenger aircraft:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/incendiary-devices-plot-canada-russia-1.7378613

[Renauda]

Possible early indicator of the direction the Trump Admin will take on the war in Ukraine:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxrwr078v7o

[George K]

@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

Possible early indicator of the direction the Trump Admin will take on the war in Ukraine:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxrwr078v7o

Thoughts on that? Ukraine doesn't seem to be doing very well lately.

Though I did read (and can't find) that the Nork soldiers didn't stand up well. Perhaps too much pr0n?

[jon-nyc]

Can't rebuild the Russian empire without Crimea, after all.

[Wim]

@jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

Can't rebuild the Russian empire without Crimea, after all.

Or Alaska ...

[Mik]

Guns or butter. If we support ceding Ukrainian territory, how long until Russia rebuilds and attacks again?

If we agree to this all sanctions must remain in place and Russia be a true pariah in the world.

[Wim]

How long?
Gosh, Putin has been busy since he came to power. It's happening in your face right now.
And he won't stop if nobody kicks his ass.

[jon-nyc]

The latest Woodward book offered a lot of insight as to how he thinks. I recommend it.