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    Mik
    wrote on 11 Oct 2024, 00:48 last edited by
    #2285

    Could be.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Renauda
      wrote on 12 Oct 2024, 15:01 last edited by
      #2286

      Russian stealth drone Okhotnik (The Hunter) gone astray:

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9qv3lnqy0vo

      Elbows up!

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        Mik
        wrote on 14 Oct 2024, 10:58 last edited by Mik
        #2287

        Oh oh. I have no idea if the Kyiv Independent is a credible soutce or not.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kyiv-considering-ceding-territory-to-end-war-with-russia-der-spiegel-reports/ar-AA1scBww?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=bb5a9956c7784914a871f34d18254332&ei=57

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Wim
          wrote on 14 Oct 2024, 14:27 last edited by Wim
          #2288

          I don't know about Kyiv Indepents' reliability.
          However, it is obvious that Ukraine is considering all options, knowing the US are a lame duck for now. And Hungary's Orban, is into foul play by litterally sabotaging European fund schemes.

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            Wim
            wrote on 15 Oct 2024, 09:25 last edited by
            #2289

            Russian ruble imploding?

            https://www.kyivpost.com/post/40513

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              Renauda
              wrote on 15 Oct 2024, 14:06 last edited by
              #2290

              Possibly so:

              https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/a-somber-outlook-for-the-russian-economy/

              Elbows up!

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                Renauda
                wrote on 18 Oct 2024, 20:57 last edited by Renauda
                #2291

                North Korea allegedly sends troops to assist Russian Special Military Operation:

                https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3vkqwe9wwdo

                After all what else are fraternal friends for?

                Imagine the howl from the Kremlin if Warsaw sent forces to assist Kyiv in defending itself.

                Elbows up!

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 18 Oct 2024, 21:23 last edited by
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                  I heard that the first 1500 are special forces trained.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Wim
                    wrote on 18 Oct 2024, 21:28 last edited by
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                    Apparently 18 have already deserted... (you'll need Google translate, sorry for that)

                    https://suspilne.media/858583-vijskovi-kndr-vze-tikaut-z-pozicij-na-kordoni-iz-branskou-ta-kurskou-oblastami-dzerela/

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                    • W Wim
                      18 Oct 2024, 21:28

                      Apparently 18 have already deserted... (you'll need Google translate, sorry for that)

                      https://suspilne.media/858583-vijskovi-kndr-vze-tikaut-z-pozicij-na-kordoni-iz-branskou-ta-kurskou-oblastami-dzerela/

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                      George K
                      wrote on 18 Oct 2024, 23:43 last edited by George K
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                      @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      18 have already deserted.

                      North Korean soldiers deserted when moved out of the country.

                      Surprise...

                      (translate not working for me)

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        18 Oct 2024, 23:43

                        @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        18 have already deserted.

                        North Korean soldiers deserted when moved out of the country.

                        Surprise...

                        (translate not working for me)

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 18 Oct 2024, 23:58 last edited by
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                        @George-K I had not thought of that, but yeah. No surprise.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 01:02 last edited by
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                          I just dont think that would work at all. Language problems come to mind right away. The level of Russian speakers in DPRK is pretty small. The foreign language emphasis in the near past has been Chinese.

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                            19 Oct 2024, 01:02

                            I just dont think that would work at all. Language problems come to mind right away. The level of Russian speakers in DPRK is pretty small. The foreign language emphasis in the near past has been Chinese.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 01:24 last edited by Renauda
                            #2297

                            @taiwan_girl

                            You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                            Elbows up!

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                              19 Oct 2024, 01:24

                              @taiwan_girl

                              You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 01:27 last edited by
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                              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              @taiwan_girl

                              You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                              Interesting. Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                              I suppose these soldiers could not be any worse than the convicts that Russia been using.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 02:00 last edited by
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                                The convicts are dead. Now it’s the aged.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  19 Oct 2024, 01:27

                                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  @taiwan_girl

                                  You would be surprised how many Russians are fluent in Oriental languages like Korean. You can be assured many are in the Russian Army and Intelligence Services.

                                  Interesting. Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                                  I suppose these soldiers could not be any worse than the convicts that Russia been using.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 19 Oct 2024, 02:15 last edited by
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                                  @taiwan_girl

                                  Do you think that they would be in a position to support the command of a group of DPRK soldiers?

                                  Yes I do.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 20 Oct 2024, 22:22 last edited by
                                    #2301

                                    Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-west-is-trying-to-starve-the-wrong-part-of-russia-s-war-machine-defense-experts-say/ar-AA1sAkG9

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      20 Oct 2024, 22:22

                                      Are we targeting the wrong thing with sanctions?

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-west-is-trying-to-starve-the-wrong-part-of-russia-s-war-machine-defense-experts-say/ar-AA1sAkG9

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 21 Oct 2024, 00:50 last edited by
                                      #2302

                                      @Mik

                                      Current Western sanctions tend to be too broad and sporadic to cripple Russian defense production. A better approach would be a mixture of economic sanctions and diplomatic pressure focused on Russia's artillery supply chain, concluded the report. "A concerted approach, with additional resources dedicated to enforcement and disruption, will have a greater chance of success."

                                      I wonder how effective that would be? Seems like it would just like we are doing now. I dont know if more diplomatic pressure on countries like China would make a difference.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 22 Oct 2024, 16:44 last edited by
                                        #2303

                                        Bomb the vodka!

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-alcohol-empire-suffers-devastating-quadruple-blow/ar-AA1sIq8h

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 22 Oct 2024, 17:52 last edited by
                                          #2304

                                          If this isn’t a war crime I don’t know what would be.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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