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  • W Do not disturb
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    Wim
    wrote on 4 Apr 2024, 18:07 last edited by
    #2136

    Really?

    https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/04/04/former-us-national-guard-member-facing-child-pornography-charges-joins-russian-army/

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      Renauda
      wrote on 4 Apr 2024, 19:16 last edited by Renauda 4 Apr 2024, 20:00
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      @Wim

      I saw that in The Moscow Times this morning as well. Goes to show you that in the Russian army anyone’s son will do.

      I hope he does not die well fighting for Putin or his cause.

      Elbows up!

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        Mik
        wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 13:38 last edited by
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        This article sums up my views on Ukraine pretty well.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/facing-the-russian-world/ar-BB1ld9J1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=094ffa8b3a704c15a5a057f89c97f980&ei=62

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • M Mik
          8 Apr 2024, 13:38

          This article sums up my views on Ukraine pretty well.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/facing-the-russian-world/ar-BB1ld9J1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=094ffa8b3a704c15a5a057f89c97f980&ei=62

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          Renauda
          wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 14:23 last edited by Renauda 4 Aug 2024, 14:24
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          @Mik

          As one pundit pithily described the current situation in Ukraine the other day:

          Pity Ukraine stabbed in front by the GOP and stabbed in the back by Biden…

          Elbows up!

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            Renauda
            wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 15:49 last edited by Renauda 4 Aug 2024, 15:50
            #2140

            Meanwhile inside Russia, the normalization of deviance violence continues to grow:

            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/08/russian-activist-who-helped-ukrainian-refugees-dies-in-custody-reports-a84773

            Elbows up!

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              George K
              wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 16:35 last edited by
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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 18:31 last edited by
                #2142

                Looks like an accident, right?

                RIGHT???

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 18:33 last edited by
                  #2143

                  At least it wasn’t a boat.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • G George K
                    8 Apr 2024, 18:31

                    Looks like an accident, right?

                    RIGHT???

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 18:45 last edited by Renauda 4 Aug 2024, 22:14
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                    @George-K

                    More on bridge collapse:

                    According to independent Russian media outlet Meduza, Russian authorities announced plans to carry out repairs of the bridge’s road surface in 2018 and planned to spend around nine million rubles ($97,000) on the job.

                    https://kyivindependent.com/bridge-collapses-in-russias-smolensk-region-killing-1-injuring-5/

                    Perhaps the budget for repairs was diverted or stolen by management. After all, it is Russia where these incidents are taking place.

                    Curious coincidence though that someone managed to catch it on video at the very moment the bridge catastrophically failed. Those bridges over railroad yards are commonplace in Russian cities. Wonder what made that particular bridge so special around that particular time?

                    Elbows up!

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                    • J Jolly
                      29 Mar 2024, 00:28

                      I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 21:59 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

                      Maybe not that much:

                      However, Vakulenko noted that this may not impact the state budget because Russia can compensate for decreases in refined petroleum product exports by increasing its export of crude oil. Additionally, the companies that own the refineries continue to pay an oil extraction tax despite the attacks.

                      “Some people think that by attacking oil refineries, the related export revenue disappears, but that is not true. It just turns into revenue from crude oil export,” Vakulenko told The Moscow Times.

                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/08/are-ukrainian-drone-attacks-on-oil-refineries-hindering-russias-war-machine-a84772

                      Elbows up!

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 11 Apr 2024, 20:40 last edited by
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                        Coffee time. An interview with Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges. The general pulls no punches. A wake up call to Americans:

                        Link to video

                        Elbows up!

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 17:04 last edited by Renauda
                          #2147

                          Russian use of the double tap strikes. Essentially strike your civilian target , wait long enough for first responders to arrive on the scene and organise then strike the target one or two times more. Excellent way to win the hearts and minds of good people:

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68761490

                          Elbows up!

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                            14 Apr 2024, 17:04

                            Russian use of the double tap strikes. Essentially strike your civilian target , wait long enough for first responders to arrive on the scene and organise then strike the target one or two times more. Excellent way to win the hearts and minds of good people:

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68761490

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                            George K
                            wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 17:48 last edited by
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                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            the double tap strikes

                            Didn't the Germans use a similar tactic in London?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 18:05 last edited by Renauda
                              #2149

                              Not sure or better, not sure they could even if they wanted. True enough though that Gerry would send multiple waves of bombers on target areas during the course of many blitz missions. Still nothing compared to a double tap precision weapon strike on a specific targets of today. Aerial bombing was just not that accurate or precise in WWII. Stuka diver bombers had some degree of accuracy (depending on the skill of the pilot) but were limited by their speed, range and were totally defenceless to Hurricanes and Spits.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 18 Apr 2024, 15:26 last edited by Renauda
                                #2150

                                So this is where it stands:

                                "We know that many countries are sitting on large piles of Patriot systems, maybe not wanting to deliver it directly," Rutte said after arriving at the two-day summit of EU leaders in Brussels.

                                "We can buy it from them, we can deliver it to Ukraine, we have the money available. It's crucial."

                                https://kyivindependent.com/dutch-pm-offers-to-buy-patriot-systems-from-allies-for-ukraine/

                                The Danish Defense Ministry announced on April 16 a new 2.2 billion kroner ($313 million) military aid package for Ukraine. The package includes 200 million Danish kroner ($28.5 million) earmarked for purchases from Ukraine's defense industry.

                                "This is the first and so far unprecedented decision to purchase military products from Ukrainian manufacturers at the expense of another country," the Strategic Industries Ministry said in a statement.

                                https://kyivindependent.com/denmark-first-to-buy-weapons-for-ukraine-from-ukrainian-manufacturer-in-deal-worth-28-5-million/

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 18 Apr 2024, 15:39 last edited by
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                                  Not sure I understand how this helps Ukraine. Are they producing surplus of some weaponry?

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 18 Apr 2024, 17:12 last edited by Renauda
                                    #2152

                                    I think that the Danes are purchasing from the Ukrainian supplier on behalf of the government in Kyiv. There’s no money in the coffers to pay for these weapons to keep the manufacturers in business.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 18 Apr 2024, 17:15 last edited by
                                      #2153

                                      Makes sense.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Wim
                                        wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 10:50 last edited by
                                        #2154

                                        Trump on Ukraine. Wonder what made him adjust his stance...

                                        https://www.reuters.com/world/donald-trump-says-ukraines-survival-is-important-us-2024-04-18/

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                                        • W Wim
                                          19 Apr 2024, 10:50

                                          Trump on Ukraine. Wonder what made him adjust his stance...

                                          https://www.reuters.com/world/donald-trump-says-ukraines-survival-is-important-us-2024-04-18/

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 13:23 last edited by
                                          #2155

                                          @Wim Votes in the upcoming election?

                                          I still dont get this blind allegiance to President Trump, as if he is some kind of "savant" who is smarter than everybody else. "OMG - President Trump said this/endorses this so it must be correct."

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