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    Wim
    wrote on 1 Apr 2024, 18:08 last edited by
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    Russian tank attack crushed near Adviivka

    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/30428

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      Renauda
      wrote on 1 Apr 2024, 18:23 last edited by
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      Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

      Elbows up!

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        George K
        wrote on 2 Apr 2024, 13:16 last edited by
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        Gotta wonder how it evaded Russian radar for 800 miles.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • R Renauda
          1 Apr 2024, 18:23

          Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

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          Mik
          wrote on 2 Apr 2024, 14:58 last edited by
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          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

          That seems to be the only thing Russia can do competently.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Renauda
            wrote on 2 Apr 2024, 15:14 last edited by Renauda 4 Feb 2024, 15:14
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            That and feed its soldiers into the meat grinder.

            Elbows up!

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            • G George K
              2 Apr 2024, 13:16

              Gotta wonder how it evaded Russian radar for 800 miles.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 2 Apr 2024, 22:31 last edited by Renauda 4 Feb 2024, 22:34
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              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Gotta wonder how it evaded Russian radar for 800 miles.

              Interesting:

              https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/02/difficult-to-keep-calm-tatarstan-residents-shaken-by-ukraine-linked-drone-strike-a84708

              Ukrainians just might have hit something more than a routine weapons factory. Could have a negative effect on the Kremlin in a large predominantly Muslim region.

              Elbows up!

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                Wim
                wrote on 4 Apr 2024, 18:07 last edited by
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                Really?

                https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/04/04/former-us-national-guard-member-facing-child-pornography-charges-joins-russian-army/

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 4 Apr 2024, 19:16 last edited by Renauda 4 Apr 2024, 20:00
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                  @Wim

                  I saw that in The Moscow Times this morning as well. Goes to show you that in the Russian army anyone’s son will do.

                  I hope he does not die well fighting for Putin or his cause.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 13:38 last edited by
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                    This article sums up my views on Ukraine pretty well.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/facing-the-russian-world/ar-BB1ld9J1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=094ffa8b3a704c15a5a057f89c97f980&ei=62

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      8 Apr 2024, 13:38

                      This article sums up my views on Ukraine pretty well.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/facing-the-russian-world/ar-BB1ld9J1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=094ffa8b3a704c15a5a057f89c97f980&ei=62

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 14:23 last edited by Renauda 4 Aug 2024, 14:24
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                      @Mik

                      As one pundit pithily described the current situation in Ukraine the other day:

                      Pity Ukraine stabbed in front by the GOP and stabbed in the back by Biden…

                      Elbows up!

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 15:49 last edited by Renauda 4 Aug 2024, 15:50
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                        Meanwhile inside Russia, the normalization of deviance violence continues to grow:

                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/08/russian-activist-who-helped-ukrainian-refugees-dies-in-custody-reports-a84773

                        Elbows up!

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                          George K
                          wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 16:35 last edited by
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 18:31 last edited by
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                            Looks like an accident, right?

                            RIGHT???

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 18:33 last edited by
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                              At least it wasn’t a boat.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • G George K
                                8 Apr 2024, 18:31

                                Looks like an accident, right?

                                RIGHT???

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 18:45 last edited by Renauda 4 Aug 2024, 22:14
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                                @George-K

                                More on bridge collapse:

                                According to independent Russian media outlet Meduza, Russian authorities announced plans to carry out repairs of the bridge’s road surface in 2018 and planned to spend around nine million rubles ($97,000) on the job.

                                https://kyivindependent.com/bridge-collapses-in-russias-smolensk-region-killing-1-injuring-5/

                                Perhaps the budget for repairs was diverted or stolen by management. After all, it is Russia where these incidents are taking place.

                                Curious coincidence though that someone managed to catch it on video at the very moment the bridge catastrophically failed. Those bridges over railroad yards are commonplace in Russian cities. Wonder what made that particular bridge so special around that particular time?

                                Elbows up!

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                                • J Jolly
                                  29 Mar 2024, 00:28

                                  I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 8 Apr 2024, 21:59 last edited by
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                                  @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

                                  Maybe not that much:

                                  However, Vakulenko noted that this may not impact the state budget because Russia can compensate for decreases in refined petroleum product exports by increasing its export of crude oil. Additionally, the companies that own the refineries continue to pay an oil extraction tax despite the attacks.

                                  “Some people think that by attacking oil refineries, the related export revenue disappears, but that is not true. It just turns into revenue from crude oil export,” Vakulenko told The Moscow Times.

                                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/08/are-ukrainian-drone-attacks-on-oil-refineries-hindering-russias-war-machine-a84772

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 11 Apr 2024, 20:40 last edited by
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                                    Coffee time. An interview with Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges. The general pulls no punches. A wake up call to Americans:

                                    Link to video

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 17:04 last edited by Renauda
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                                      Russian use of the double tap strikes. Essentially strike your civilian target , wait long enough for first responders to arrive on the scene and organise then strike the target one or two times more. Excellent way to win the hearts and minds of good people:

                                      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68761490

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • R Renauda
                                        14 Apr 2024, 17:04

                                        Russian use of the double tap strikes. Essentially strike your civilian target , wait long enough for first responders to arrive on the scene and organise then strike the target one or two times more. Excellent way to win the hearts and minds of good people:

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68761490

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 17:48 last edited by
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                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        the double tap strikes

                                        Didn't the Germans use a similar tactic in London?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 14 Apr 2024, 18:05 last edited by Renauda
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                                          Not sure or better, not sure they could even if they wanted. True enough though that Gerry would send multiple waves of bombers on target areas during the course of many blitz missions. Still nothing compared to a double tap precision weapon strike on a specific targets of today. Aerial bombing was just not that accurate or precise in WWII. Stuka diver bombers had some degree of accuracy (depending on the skill of the pilot) but were limited by their speed, range and were totally defenceless to Hurricanes and Spits.

                                          Elbows up!

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