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  • JollyJ Jolly

    I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

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    George K
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    @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

    I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

    Good point. Somewhere, perhaps in a link I posted a while ago, there was a comment that Ukraine's attacks on the refineries has cut Russian oil processing by 13% or so.

    I also saw a story that the Biden administration has cautioned that Ukraine should not strike targets outside its borders.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Wim
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        Russian tank attack crushed near Adviivka

        https://www.kyivpost.com/post/30428

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          Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

          Elbows up!

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            George K
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            Gotta wonder how it evaded Russian radar for 800 miles.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

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              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Ukrainian civilians in cities and towns will pay dearly for this.

              That seems to be the only thing Russia can do competently.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Renauda
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                That and feed its soldiers into the meat grinder.

                Elbows up!

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                • George KG George K

                  Gotta wonder how it evaded Russian radar for 800 miles.

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                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Gotta wonder how it evaded Russian radar for 800 miles.

                  Interesting:

                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/02/difficult-to-keep-calm-tatarstan-residents-shaken-by-ukraine-linked-drone-strike-a84708

                  Ukrainians just might have hit something more than a routine weapons factory. Could have a negative effect on the Kremlin in a large predominantly Muslim region.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Wim
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                    Really?

                    https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/04/04/former-us-national-guard-member-facing-child-pornography-charges-joins-russian-army/

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                      @Wim

                      I saw that in The Moscow Times this morning as well. Goes to show you that in the Russian army anyone’s son will do.

                      I hope he does not die well fighting for Putin or his cause.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        This article sums up my views on Ukraine pretty well.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/facing-the-russian-world/ar-BB1ld9J1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=094ffa8b3a704c15a5a057f89c97f980&ei=62

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          This article sums up my views on Ukraine pretty well.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/facing-the-russian-world/ar-BB1ld9J1?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=094ffa8b3a704c15a5a057f89c97f980&ei=62

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                          @Mik

                          As one pundit pithily described the current situation in Ukraine the other day:

                          Pity Ukraine stabbed in front by the GOP and stabbed in the back by Biden…

                          Elbows up!

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                            Renauda
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                            Meanwhile inside Russia, the normalization of deviance violence continues to grow:

                            https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/08/russian-activist-who-helped-ukrainian-refugees-dies-in-custody-reports-a84773

                            Elbows up!

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                              George K
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
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                                Looks like an accident, right?

                                RIGHT???

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  At least it wasn’t a boat.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    Looks like an accident, right?

                                    RIGHT???

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #2144

                                    @George-K

                                    More on bridge collapse:

                                    According to independent Russian media outlet Meduza, Russian authorities announced plans to carry out repairs of the bridge’s road surface in 2018 and planned to spend around nine million rubles ($97,000) on the job.

                                    https://kyivindependent.com/bridge-collapses-in-russias-smolensk-region-killing-1-injuring-5/

                                    Perhaps the budget for repairs was diverted or stolen by management. After all, it is Russia where these incidents are taking place.

                                    Curious coincidence though that someone managed to catch it on video at the very moment the bridge catastrophically failed. Those bridges over railroad yards are commonplace in Russian cities. Wonder what made that particular bridge so special around that particular time?

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

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                                      @Jolly said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      I'd concentrate on the refineries. Oil and gas are Russia's economic lifeblood.

                                      Maybe not that much:

                                      However, Vakulenko noted that this may not impact the state budget because Russia can compensate for decreases in refined petroleum product exports by increasing its export of crude oil. Additionally, the companies that own the refineries continue to pay an oil extraction tax despite the attacks.

                                      “Some people think that by attacking oil refineries, the related export revenue disappears, but that is not true. It just turns into revenue from crude oil export,” Vakulenko told The Moscow Times.

                                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/04/08/are-ukrainian-drone-attacks-on-oil-refineries-hindering-russias-war-machine-a84772

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        Renauda
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                                        Coffee time. An interview with Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges. The general pulls no punches. A wake up call to Americans:

                                        Link to video

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Renauda
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                                          #2147

                                          Russian use of the double tap strikes. Essentially strike your civilian target , wait long enough for first responders to arrive on the scene and organise then strike the target one or two times more. Excellent way to win the hearts and minds of good people:

                                          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68761490

                                          Elbows up!

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