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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #1986

    The average age of a Ukraine soldier is in the forties. Putin is playing a war of attrition, using bodies instead of equipment.

    Biden straddled the fence too long. Not the right equipment, not enough equipment, too many restrictions on use.

    Almost as if he was fighting a proxy war, trying to simply bleed the Russians.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • W Offline
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      Wim
      wrote on last edited by
      #1987

      Speaking of attrition:
      https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/03/frontline-report-russian-soldiers-refuse-to-attack-dnipro-islands-as-ukrainians-maintain-bridgehead-across-the-river/

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      • W Offline
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        Wim
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        #1988

        Another diplomatic failure for Russia:

        https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/08/armenia-azerbaijan-breakthrough-signals-end-of-russias-south-caucasus-influence/

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
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          #1989

          We’ll see how long it takes for the Kremlin to withdraw its “peacekeepers” from the area.

          Elbows up!

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #1990

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #1991

              Will this make snipers an obsolete specialty?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #1992

                Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1993

                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                  "World War II. 502nd Parachute Infantry Regiment. 101 Airborne Div in 1942. I have also seen it attributed to the 82nd and their is currently an Air Force Bomber unit that uses it in Latin."

                  I saw another story showing how the Russians are protecting their trenches (trenches!) with overhead metal caging to make it difficult for FPV drones to attack there.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1994

                    Trench warfare. Wow.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #1995

                      Apparently the NORK shells are substandard. Awww....

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-express-disappointment-over-north-korean-ammunition-quality/ar-AA1lgjmE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f775c509cde4f2cbe2fccc1b438ae39&ei=12

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Trench warfare. Wow.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by George K
                        #1996

                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Trench warfare. Wow.

                        That's been going on for a while.

                        https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61701807

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • bachophileB Offline
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                          bachophile
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1997

                          There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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                          • bachophileB bachophile

                            There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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                            Rainman
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1998

                            @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

                            Good to hear from you bachophile!

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                            • bachophileB bachophile

                              There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

                              MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1999

                              @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

                              Still getting a lot of wounded?

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #2000

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #2001

                                  The thread:

                                  https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1735366664764702978.html

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #2002

                                    Spot on.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Spot on.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by George K
                                      #2003

                                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Spot on.

                                      ISW has a cold, hard, analysis - always.

                                      Putin's playing the long game. The US, as usual, is not.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Spot on.

                                        ISW has a cold, hard, analysis - always.

                                        Putin's playing the long game. The US, as usual, is not.

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #2004

                                        @George-K

                                        Putin's playing the long game. The US, as usual, is not.

                                        Seems to be a missed point by many, especially since 2000. I’ll say it just once, the Russian concept of time is more akin to that of the North American Indian notion of time than a Western. Some will argue neither have any concept of time. It’s been explained many times and not just starting with G. F. Kennan. The only American Sect’y of State who really understood that was George P. Schultz.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #2005

                                          @George-K @Mik @Renauda Agree. "Appeasment" will not work.

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