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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @Wim
    The losses are significant from the Kremlin’s point of view in that it surely feels it has a right to entitlement to have a voting representative on both agencies’ governing bodies.

    Big diplomatic win for Ukraine, EU and NATO.

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    Wim
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    #1984

    @Renauda I suppose Lavrov felt pretty uneasy. Who else is to be blamed for this debacle?

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    • MikM Offline
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      #1985

      Here's what might help Putin out of office. Not sure where he's getting the cash for this expansion.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-orders-russian-armed-forces-personnel-increase-of-170-000/ar-AA1kTUtQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=138bcec0f1bd4d798538c5f270b2d1c3&ei=17

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
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        #1986

        The average age of a Ukraine soldier is in the forties. Putin is playing a war of attrition, using bodies instead of equipment.

        Biden straddled the fence too long. Not the right equipment, not enough equipment, too many restrictions on use.

        Almost as if he was fighting a proxy war, trying to simply bleed the Russians.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Wim
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          #1987

          Speaking of attrition:
          https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/03/frontline-report-russian-soldiers-refuse-to-attack-dnipro-islands-as-ukrainians-maintain-bridgehead-across-the-river/

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            Wim
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            #1988

            Another diplomatic failure for Russia:

            https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/08/armenia-azerbaijan-breakthrough-signals-end-of-russias-south-caucasus-influence/

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              Renauda
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              #1989

              We’ll see how long it takes for the Kremlin to withdraw its “peacekeepers” from the area.

              Elbows up!

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                jon-nyc
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                #1990

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #1991

                  Will this make snipers an obsolete specialty?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1992

                    Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

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                      George K
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                      #1993

                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                      "World War II. 502nd Parachute Infantry Regiment. 101 Airborne Div in 1942. I have also seen it attributed to the 82nd and their is currently an Air Force Bomber unit that uses it in Latin."

                      I saw another story showing how the Russians are protecting their trenches (trenches!) with overhead metal caging to make it difficult for FPV drones to attack there.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #1994

                        Trench warfare. Wow.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Apparently the NORK shells are substandard. Awww....

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-express-disappointment-over-north-korean-ammunition-quality/ar-AA1lgjmE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f775c509cde4f2cbe2fccc1b438ae39&ei=12

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Trench warfare. Wow.

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                            George K
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                            #1996

                            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Trench warfare. Wow.

                            That's been going on for a while.

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61701807

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              bachophile
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                              #1997

                              There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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                                Rainman
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                                @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

                                Good to hear from you bachophile!

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                                • bachophileB bachophile

                                  There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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                                  @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

                                  Still getting a lot of wounded?

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
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                                      #2001

                                      The thread:

                                      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1735366664764702978.html

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #2002

                                        Spot on.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Spot on.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by George K
                                          #2003

                                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Spot on.

                                          ISW has a cold, hard, analysis - always.

                                          Putin's playing the long game. The US, as usual, is not.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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