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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1978

    Smart. Ukraine cannot kill enough Russians to stop the war, but an ill-equipped army can't accomplish much of anything except get itself killed.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #1979

      More meat for the grinder….

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67592803

      And somehow NATO is to blame.

      Elbows up!

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #1980

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/1334454/russian-armed-forces-personnel/

        Screenshot 2023-12-01 at 5.13.37 PM.png

        Even if the Ukrainian claim of 300K casualties is inflated by a factor of two, it's still a big hit.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • W Do not disturb
          W Do not disturb
          Wim
          wrote on last edited by
          #1981

          A diplomatic failure for Russia:

          https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/02/ukraine-outmaneuvers-russia-at-osce-in-chemical-weapons-maritime-agencies/

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #1982

            It would appear Russia does not fear isolation.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • W Wim

              A diplomatic failure for Russia:

              https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/02/ukraine-outmaneuvers-russia-at-osce-in-chemical-weapons-maritime-agencies/

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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #1983

              @Wim
              The losses are significant from the Kremlin’s point of view in that it surely feels it has a right to entitlement to have a voting representative on both agencies’ governing bodies.

              Big diplomatic win for Ukraine, EU and NATO.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @Wim
                The losses are significant from the Kremlin’s point of view in that it surely feels it has a right to entitlement to have a voting representative on both agencies’ governing bodies.

                Big diplomatic win for Ukraine, EU and NATO.

                W Do not disturb
                W Do not disturb
                Wim
                wrote on last edited by
                #1984

                @Renauda I suppose Lavrov felt pretty uneasy. Who else is to be blamed for this debacle?

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1985

                  Here's what might help Putin out of office. Not sure where he's getting the cash for this expansion.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-orders-russian-armed-forces-personnel-increase-of-170-000/ar-AA1kTUtQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=138bcec0f1bd4d798538c5f270b2d1c3&ei=17

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1986

                    The average age of a Ukraine soldier is in the forties. Putin is playing a war of attrition, using bodies instead of equipment.

                    Biden straddled the fence too long. Not the right equipment, not enough equipment, too many restrictions on use.

                    Almost as if he was fighting a proxy war, trying to simply bleed the Russians.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • W Do not disturb
                      W Do not disturb
                      Wim
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1987

                      Speaking of attrition:
                      https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/03/frontline-report-russian-soldiers-refuse-to-attack-dnipro-islands-as-ukrainians-maintain-bridgehead-across-the-river/

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                      • W Do not disturb
                        W Do not disturb
                        Wim
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1988

                        Another diplomatic failure for Russia:

                        https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/08/armenia-azerbaijan-breakthrough-signals-end-of-russias-south-caucasus-influence/

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1989

                          We’ll see how long it takes for the Kremlin to withdraw its “peacekeepers” from the area.

                          Elbows up!

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #1990

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1991

                              Will this make snipers an obsolete specialty?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1992

                                Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1993

                                  @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                                  "World War II. 502nd Parachute Infantry Regiment. 101 Airborne Div in 1942. I have also seen it attributed to the 82nd and their is currently an Air Force Bomber unit that uses it in Latin."

                                  I saw another story showing how the Russians are protecting their trenches (trenches!) with overhead metal caging to make it difficult for FPV drones to attack there.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1994

                                    Trench warfare. Wow.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1995

                                      Apparently the NORK shells are substandard. Awww....

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-express-disappointment-over-north-korean-ammunition-quality/ar-AA1lgjmE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f775c509cde4f2cbe2fccc1b438ae39&ei=12

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Trench warfare. Wow.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by George K
                                        #1996

                                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Trench warfare. Wow.

                                        That's been going on for a while.

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61701807

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • bachophileB Offline
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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1997

                                          There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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