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The Ukraine war thread

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  • R Renauda
    3 Dec 2023, 00:13

    @Wim
    The losses are significant from the Kremlin’s point of view in that it surely feels it has a right to entitlement to have a voting representative on both agencies’ governing bodies.

    Big diplomatic win for Ukraine, EU and NATO.

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    Wim
    wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 11:01 last edited by
    #1984

    @Renauda I suppose Lavrov felt pretty uneasy. Who else is to be blamed for this debacle?

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      Mik
      wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 11:41 last edited by
      #1985

      Here's what might help Putin out of office. Not sure where he's getting the cash for this expansion.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-orders-russian-armed-forces-personnel-increase-of-170-000/ar-AA1kTUtQ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=138bcec0f1bd4d798538c5f270b2d1c3&ei=17

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Jolly
        wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 18:51 last edited by
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        The average age of a Ukraine soldier is in the forties. Putin is playing a war of attrition, using bodies instead of equipment.

        Biden straddled the fence too long. Not the right equipment, not enough equipment, too many restrictions on use.

        Almost as if he was fighting a proxy war, trying to simply bleed the Russians.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Wim
          wrote on 3 Dec 2023, 21:54 last edited by
          #1987

          Speaking of attrition:
          https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/03/frontline-report-russian-soldiers-refuse-to-attack-dnipro-islands-as-ukrainians-maintain-bridgehead-across-the-river/

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            Wim
            wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 22:27 last edited by
            #1988

            Another diplomatic failure for Russia:

            https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/08/armenia-azerbaijan-breakthrough-signals-end-of-russias-south-caucasus-influence/

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              Renauda
              wrote on 8 Dec 2023, 22:42 last edited by
              #1989

              We’ll see how long it takes for the Kremlin to withdraw its “peacekeepers” from the area.

              Elbows up!

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 9 Dec 2023, 17:26 last edited by
                #1990

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  George K
                  wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 14:14 last edited by
                  #1991

                  Will this make snipers an obsolete specialty?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 14:50 last edited by
                    #1992

                    Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      10 Dec 2023, 14:50

                      Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 14:54 last edited by
                      #1993

                      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Death from above. That was some unit's motto.

                      "World War II. 502nd Parachute Infantry Regiment. 101 Airborne Div in 1942. I have also seen it attributed to the 82nd and their is currently an Air Force Bomber unit that uses it in Latin."

                      I saw another story showing how the Russians are protecting their trenches (trenches!) with overhead metal caging to make it difficult for FPV drones to attack there.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 15:15 last edited by
                        #1994

                        Trench warfare. Wow.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 15:43 last edited by
                          #1995

                          Apparently the NORK shells are substandard. Awww....

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russians-express-disappointment-over-north-korean-ammunition-quality/ar-AA1lgjmE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3f775c509cde4f2cbe2fccc1b438ae39&ei=12

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            10 Dec 2023, 15:15

                            Trench warfare. Wow.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 15:47 last edited by George K 12 Oct 2023, 15:48
                            #1996

                            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Trench warfare. Wow.

                            That's been going on for a while.

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61701807

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              bachophile
                              wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 18:54 last edited by
                              #1997

                              There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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                              • B bachophile
                                10 Dec 2023, 18:54

                                There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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                                Rainman
                                wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 21:48 last edited by
                                #1998

                                @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

                                Good to hear from you bachophile!

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                                • B bachophile
                                  10 Dec 2023, 18:54

                                  There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 10 Dec 2023, 22:21 last edited by
                                  #1999

                                  @bachophile said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  There is a war in Ukraine?? Since when ?

                                  Still getting a lot of wounded?

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 13 Dec 2023, 20:10 last edited by
                                    #2000

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 14 Dec 2023, 23:49 last edited by
                                      #2001

                                      The thread:

                                      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1735366664764702978.html

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 15 Dec 2023, 00:21 last edited by
                                        #2002

                                        Spot on.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          15 Dec 2023, 00:21

                                          Spot on.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 15 Dec 2023, 00:23 last edited by George K
                                          #2003

                                          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Spot on.

                                          ISW has a cold, hard, analysis - always.

                                          Putin's playing the long game. The US, as usual, is not.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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