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    George K
    wrote on 28 May 2023, 12:16 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 28 May 2023, 12:44 last edited by
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      I suspect Putin has Lukashenko's successor picked.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        George K
        wrote on 28 May 2023, 13:03 last edited by
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        I wonder if he's been "Litvinenko'ed".

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          28 May 2023, 13:03

          I wonder if he's been "Litvinenko'ed".

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          Renauda
          wrote on 28 May 2023, 21:19 last edited by
          #1701

          @George-K

          Or maybe Putinolini made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

          Elbows up!

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            George K
            wrote on 30 May 2023, 11:18 last edited by
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            Drones hit Moscow buildings


            Russia is blaming Ukraine for launching a drone attack on Moscow early Tuesday which reportedly left two people injured and several buildings damaged, a rare incident in the Russian capital after months of war.

            While incidents in Moscow are uncommon, residents in Kyiv have faced 17 airstrikes this month. There was a Russian bombardment of the Ukrainian capital overnight, which officials said killed at least one person.

            At least three residential buildings in Moscow were damaged by drones on Tuesday, Russian state news agency RIA Novosti reported, citing emergency services and residents.

            Moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin said there were no serious injuries reported from the aerial assault, which caused “minor damage” and emergency services were on the scene.

            Ukraine has denied direct involvement with Tuesday’s drone attack on Moscow.

            There have been a handful of incidents within Russian territory since Moscow launched a full-scale invasion of its neighbor last February, with most of the fighting taking place inside Ukraine.

            Earlier this month, two unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were destroyed over the Kremlin in a murky attack that Russia blamed on Kyiv and claimed was an attempt to target Russian President Vladimir Putin. Kyiv forcefully denied the allegation.

            On Tuesday, Russia’s Ministry of Defense said Kyiv was also at fault for what it called a “terrorist attack” that involved eight aircraft-type UAVs which were shot down or diverted earlier in the morning.

            “All enemy UAVs were destroyed,” the defense ministry said in a statement. “Three of them were suppressed by electronic warfare, lost control and deviated from their intended targets.

            “Another five UAVs were shot down by the Pantsir-S surface-to-air missile system in the Moscow region,” it added.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              30 May 2023, 11:18

              Drones hit Moscow buildings


              Russia is blaming Ukraine for launching a drone attack on Moscow early Tuesday which reportedly left two people injured and several buildings damaged, a rare incident in the Russian capital after months of war.

              While incidents in Moscow are uncommon, residents in Kyiv have faced 17 airstrikes this month. There was a Russian bombardment of the Ukrainian capital overnight, which officials said killed at least one person.

              At least three residential buildings in Moscow were damaged by drones on Tuesday, Russian state news agency RIA Novosti reported, citing emergency services and residents.

              Moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin said there were no serious injuries reported from the aerial assault, which caused “minor damage” and emergency services were on the scene.

              Ukraine has denied direct involvement with Tuesday’s drone attack on Moscow.

              There have been a handful of incidents within Russian territory since Moscow launched a full-scale invasion of its neighbor last February, with most of the fighting taking place inside Ukraine.

              Earlier this month, two unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were destroyed over the Kremlin in a murky attack that Russia blamed on Kyiv and claimed was an attempt to target Russian President Vladimir Putin. Kyiv forcefully denied the allegation.

              On Tuesday, Russia’s Ministry of Defense said Kyiv was also at fault for what it called a “terrorist attack” that involved eight aircraft-type UAVs which were shot down or diverted earlier in the morning.

              “All enemy UAVs were destroyed,” the defense ministry said in a statement. “Three of them were suppressed by electronic warfare, lost control and deviated from their intended targets.

              “Another five UAVs were shot down by the Pantsir-S surface-to-air missile system in the Moscow region,” it added.

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              Copper
              wrote on 30 May 2023, 14:45 last edited by
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              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Ukraine has denied direct involvement

              It was probably the same people who masterminded the Nord Stream pipeline affair.

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                George K
                wrote on 31 May 2023, 01:09 last edited by George K
                #1704

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 31 May 2023, 11:41 last edited by
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                  Drones attack Russian oil refineries

                  Drone attacks on Russian soil continued into their second day, with reported strikes on two oil refineries roughly 50 miles from Russia’s highly important Black Sea oil export terminals, local authorities said.

                  The strikes come just a day after drone attacks in Moscow that damaged buildings and prompted the Kremlin to say it reserves the right to take “severe measures” in response.

                  Meanwhile, several people have been killed in shelling in the central and eastern Ukrainian regions of Dnipropetrovsk and Russian-occupied Luhansk, according to local offici

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 31 May 2023, 12:46 last edited by
                    #1706

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 4 Jun 2023, 20:45 last edited by
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                      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1665377461566160898.html

                      Mikhail Khodaryonok was one of the few Russian state media voices who warned about the difficulties of invading Ukraine before February 2022

                      Here's what he has to say now /1

                      Khodaryonok admits that Russia lacks the resources to defend Belgorod, and highlights how Belgorod officials have attacked the Russian Defence Ministry on this

                      Khodaryonok calls for additional fortifications in Grayvoron and Shebekino /2

                      Khodaryonok wants air power and artillery to be taken to defend the Russia-Ukraine border. This is how serious the threat is

                      He says they need to be either taken from frontline areas like Kherson, Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia or from the reserves of the Russian military /3

                      Khodaryonok warns that Ukraine will carry out Shebekino-style incursions in other regions of Russia to stretch their forces across a 1,500km

                      These operations will be followed by a serious Ukrainian counter-offensive /4

                      Khodaryonok's commentary spurred extreme reactions on Russian state TV

                      Alexander Shpakovsky called for an end to the SVO and the start of the Great Patriotic War where all Russians need to participate

                      The sense of alarm is real after the Belgorod attack /END

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Wim
                        wrote on 5 Jun 2023, 19:51 last edited by
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                        This looks serious:

                        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/ukrainian-troops-launch-attacks-along-donetsk-frontline

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 5 Jun 2023, 22:17 last edited by
                          #1709

                          Something definitely percolating there. Not only with armed forces but PsyOps as well:

                          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/05/radio-waves-air-fake-putin-state-of-war-address-a81403

                          Elbows up!

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                            bachophile
                            wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 04:04 last edited by
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                              Jon
                              wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 09:56 last edited by
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                              @bachophile

                              Damn.

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                                6 Jun 2023, 09:56

                                @bachophile

                                Damn.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 11:41 last edited by
                                #1712

                                @Jon said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                @bachophile

                                Damn.

                                Each side is accusing the other, of course. However, from what I've read, this limits Ukraine's ability to cross the river and execute their counter-offensive.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 11:47 last edited by
                                  #1713

                                  It doesn't make much sense for anyone but Russia to be behind it.

                                  https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/06/06/why-is-the-nova-kakhovka-dam-so-important/

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    6 Jun 2023, 11:47

                                    It doesn't make much sense for anyone but Russia to be behind it.

                                    https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/06/06/why-is-the-nova-kakhovka-dam-so-important/

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 11:49 last edited by
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                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 11:50 last edited by
                                      #1715

                                      Link to video

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 14:16 last edited by
                                        #1716

                                        More predictions of doom for Putin, civil war in Russia, end of the federation. Who knows. The collapse of the federation might be the worst thing that could happen.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 15:21 last edited by
                                          #1717

                                          I clearly remember a time not all that long ago when there was a similar fear that the USSR would collapse. I was even sent to DC to attend a conference discussing the various scenarios and consequences of a collapse. Plenty of gloom and doom in those presentations.

                                          Elbows up!

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