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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1706

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG Offline
      George KG Offline
      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #1707

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1665377461566160898.html

      Mikhail Khodaryonok was one of the few Russian state media voices who warned about the difficulties of invading Ukraine before February 2022

      Here's what he has to say now /1

      Khodaryonok admits that Russia lacks the resources to defend Belgorod, and highlights how Belgorod officials have attacked the Russian Defence Ministry on this

      Khodaryonok calls for additional fortifications in Grayvoron and Shebekino /2

      Khodaryonok wants air power and artillery to be taken to defend the Russia-Ukraine border. This is how serious the threat is

      He says they need to be either taken from frontline areas like Kherson, Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia or from the reserves of the Russian military /3

      Khodaryonok warns that Ukraine will carry out Shebekino-style incursions in other regions of Russia to stretch their forces across a 1,500km

      These operations will be followed by a serious Ukrainian counter-offensive /4

      Khodaryonok's commentary spurred extreme reactions on Russian state TV

      Alexander Shpakovsky called for an end to the SVO and the start of the Great Patriotic War where all Russians need to participate

      The sense of alarm is real after the Belgorod attack /END

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • W Do not disturb
        W Do not disturb
        Wim
        wrote on last edited by
        #1708

        This looks serious:

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/ukrainian-troops-launch-attacks-along-donetsk-frontline

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        • RenaudaR Offline
          RenaudaR Offline
          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #1709

          Something definitely percolating there. Not only with armed forces but PsyOps as well:

          https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/05/radio-waves-air-fake-putin-state-of-war-address-a81403

          Elbows up!

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          • bachophileB Offline
            bachophileB Offline
            bachophile
            wrote on last edited by
            #1710

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            • bachophileB bachophile

              JonJ Offline
              JonJ Offline
              Jon
              wrote on last edited by
              #1711

              @bachophile

              Damn.

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              • JonJ Jon

                @bachophile

                Damn.

                George KG Offline
                George KG Offline
                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #1712

                @Jon said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @bachophile

                Damn.

                Each side is accusing the other, of course. However, from what I've read, this limits Ukraine's ability to cross the river and execute their counter-offensive.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1713

                  It doesn't make much sense for anyone but Russia to be behind it.

                  https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/06/06/why-is-the-nova-kakhovka-dam-so-important/

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    It doesn't make much sense for anyone but Russia to be behind it.

                    https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/06/06/why-is-the-nova-kakhovka-dam-so-important/

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1714

                    alt text

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1715

                      Link to video

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1716

                        More predictions of doom for Putin, civil war in Russia, end of the federation. Who knows. The collapse of the federation might be the worst thing that could happen.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • RenaudaR Offline
                          RenaudaR Offline
                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1717

                          I clearly remember a time not all that long ago when there was a similar fear that the USSR would collapse. I was even sent to DC to attend a conference discussing the various scenarios and consequences of a collapse. Plenty of gloom and doom in those presentations.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • George KG Offline
                            George KG Offline
                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1718

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG Offline
                              George KG Offline
                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1719

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1720

                                They might want to rethink the dam thing. It's not working out real well.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-troops-flee-first-line-of-defense-near-kherson-all-wet/ar-AA1ceQiK?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8b7e28fee78f47ed8c8ef5bba937fc41&ei=20

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • George KG George K

                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1721

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Good jet.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1722

                                    https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/06/08/wagner-leader-yevgeny-prigozhin-predicts-firing-squads-russia-ukraine-ebof-vpx.cnn

                                    Wagner chief makes some predictions about the Ukraine war ...

                                    I don't get why this Wagner chief keeps making public statements about the Ukraine war. What is there for him to gain from making these public statements?

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/06/08/wagner-leader-yevgeny-prigozhin-predicts-firing-squads-russia-ukraine-ebof-vpx.cnn

                                      Wagner chief makes some predictions about the Ukraine war ...

                                      I don't get why this Wagner chief keeps making public statements about the Ukraine war. What is there for him to gain from making these public statements?

                                      George KG Offline
                                      George KG Offline
                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1723

                                      @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/06/08/wagner-leader-yevgeny-prigozhin-predicts-firing-squads-russia-ukraine-ebof-vpx.cnn

                                      In order to watch a 54 second news report, I had to watch a 30 second advertisement. Thanks, CNN.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1724

                                        Prigozhin seems to be setting up to lead a civil war or coup.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • RenaudaR Offline
                                          RenaudaR Offline
                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1725

                                          Analysis of dam destruction:

                                          https://www.dw.com/en/russians-likely-underestimated-flood-impact-military-expert/video-65848035

                                          Elbows up!

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