The Ukraine war thread
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wrote on 24 Mar 2022, 21:47 last edited by
A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."
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A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 00:39 last edited by
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 00:48 last edited by
Maybe I'll head over to the supermarket tomorrow to watch the panic.
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 11:13 last edited by
Duds:
Russian missiles in Ukraine have failure rate of up to 60%, U.S. officials say
Russian precision-guided missiles are failing up to 60% of the time in Ukraine, three U.S. officials with knowledge of intelligence on the issue told Reuters, a possible explanation for the poor progress of Russia's invasion.
Since President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, Russia has failed to achieve basic objectives such as neutralizing Ukraine's air force despite a vastly larger armed forces.
The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the information, did not provide evidence to support the assessment and did not disclose what precisely was driving high Russian missile failure rates.
Reuters was unable to independently verify the figures.
Though Reuters could not determine what a standard failure rate would be for air-launched cruise missiles, two experts interviewed by Reuters said any failure rate of 20% and above would be considered high.
U.S. defense officials told reporters this week that the Pentagon assesses that Russia has launched more than 1,100 missiles of all kinds since the war began. The U.S. officials have so far not said how many of those hit their targets and how many failed to do so.
Citing U.S. intelligence, three U.S. officials said the United States estimated that Russia's failure rate varied day-to-day, depended on the type of missile being launched, and could sometimes exceed 50%. Two of them said it reached as high as 60%.
One of the officials said the intelligence showed that Russia's air-launched cruise missiles had a failure rate in the 20% to 60% range, depending on the day.
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 11:22 last edited by
That ship that was blown up?
It appears on Russian TV "News" two days earlier:
Link to videoBest comment: "This ship is so sophisticated. Allegedly it can also become a submarine."
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 12:56 last edited by
It's well on its way to doing so.
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 14:48 last edited by
Updated with some new calculations - on the far right is a column showing the relative losses of Ukrainian vs Russian equipment.
Also losses per day since March 16.
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 16:59 last edited by
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wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 20:27 last edited by George K
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Multiply both those number by 4 and you’ll have a fairly accurate number. Approaching the same numbers the Pentagon and Brits are estimating.
wrote on 25 Mar 2022, 23:06 last edited by@Renauda I saw a story (I think it was on Forbes) that the Ukrainians have more, yes MORE, tanks now than they did at the beginning of the "special mission." Despite their losses, they have captured more abandoned tanks than they have lost. I think Forbes said they are up 49 tanks overall.
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wrote on 27 Mar 2022, 11:09 last edited by
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 13:43 last edited by
The oligarchs are going for redemption. Also to get out of the sanctions.
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Unless someone sends me a specific link I avoid US media sources. Like you, I too follow the BBC reports as well several European sources in English. Our own CBC is not too bad although it is more or less BBC lite. For print media the National Post and Globe and Mail from time to time also provide some fairly decent analysis depending on the topic.
There are however some excellent US sources but they are not part of the slick media outlets. Rather they are found with various think tanks and specialised research institutes and schools that operate out of the country’s universities.
wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 15:17 last edited by@Renauda There are however some excellent US sources but they are not part of the slick media outlets. Rather they are found with various think tanks and specialised research institutes and schools that operate out of the country’s universities.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^https://thebestschools.org/magazine/most-influential-think-tanks/
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 15:20 last edited by
Phibes, does your Russian friend have an opinion about all this?
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 15:24 last edited by
@Catseye3 said in The Ukraine war thread:
Phibes, does your Russian friend have an opinion about all this?
He has an opinion about everything, so yes. He's been wearing the Ukrainian flag for the last month.
He's very anti-Putin, and says that he's essentially a gangster that has taken over the country.
FWIW, he doesn't think that it's likely that Putin will get stabbed in the back by his own people as he's completely surrounded himself with yes-men.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2022, 15:30 last edited by
