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  • jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #154

    Ugh.

    You were warned.

    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Ugh.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #155

      @jon-nyc I saw that yesterday. It's clearly a residential area of no military value, other than being a potential spot for snipers.

      The White House actually said "War Crimes" yesterday.

      The link from the New York Times I posted earlier talks about Russian soldiers "clearing" residential areas.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #156

        Dresden.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • KlausK Online
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          Klaus
          wrote on last edited by
          #157

          I don't think it is comparable yet to Hamburg or Dresden or London in WW2, which were bombed over extended periods of time and where the destruction was more or less total. But it is of course pretty bad.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #158

            I work with a guy who's wife has twin sons of military age in Mariupol. He managed to get the older folks out, but they're staying...

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              I work with a guy who's wife has twin sons of military age in Mariupol. He managed to get the older folks out, but they're staying...

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #159

              @Doctor-Phibes

              I can’t imagine the anxiety.

              Elbows up!

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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #160

                A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."

                You were warned.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #161

                  @jon-nyc 😂

                  That sound exactly like the Radio Yerevan jokes that circulated over there during Soviet times.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #162

                    Do you like to eat?

                    Maybe Russia isn't so evil.

                    ca772aba-96d2-4fd8-a5ca-7101023f1ad0-image.png

                    https://www.foxnews.com/

                    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                    • CopperC Copper

                      Do you like to eat?

                      Maybe Russia isn't so evil.

                      ca772aba-96d2-4fd8-a5ca-7101023f1ad0-image.png

                      https://www.foxnews.com/

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by George K
                      #163

                      @Copper

                      image.jpeg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #164

                        Maybe I'll head over to the supermarket tomorrow to watch the panic.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #165

                          Duds:

                          Russian missiles in Ukraine have failure rate of up to 60%, U.S. officials say

                          Russian precision-guided missiles are failing up to 60% of the time in Ukraine, three U.S. officials with knowledge of intelligence on the issue told Reuters, a possible explanation for the poor progress of Russia's invasion.

                          Since President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, Russia has failed to achieve basic objectives such as neutralizing Ukraine's air force despite a vastly larger armed forces.

                          The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the information, did not provide evidence to support the assessment and did not disclose what precisely was driving high Russian missile failure rates.

                          Reuters was unable to independently verify the figures.

                          Though Reuters could not determine what a standard failure rate would be for air-launched cruise missiles, two experts interviewed by Reuters said any failure rate of 20% and above would be considered high.

                          U.S. defense officials told reporters this week that the Pentagon assesses that Russia has launched more than 1,100 missiles of all kinds since the war began. The U.S. officials have so far not said how many of those hit their targets and how many failed to do so.

                          Citing U.S. intelligence, three U.S. officials said the United States estimated that Russia's failure rate varied day-to-day, depended on the type of missile being launched, and could sometimes exceed 50%. Two of them said it reached as high as 60%.

                          One of the officials said the intelligence showed that Russia's air-launched cruise missiles had a failure rate in the 20% to 60% range, depending on the day.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #166

                            That ship that was blown up?

                            It appears on Russian TV "News" two days earlier:

                            Link to video

                            Best comment: "This ship is so sophisticated. Allegedly it can also become a submarine."

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #167

                              It's well on its way to doing so.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #168

                                Updated with some new calculations - on the far right is a column showing the relative losses of Ukrainian vs Russian equipment.

                                Also losses per day since March 16.

                                Screen Shot 2022-03-25 at 9.47.51 AM.png

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #169

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by George K
                                    #170

                                    "Those really are survivability ratios at par with World War II, before the advent of modern medicine."

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      "Those really are survivability ratios at par with World War II, before the advent of modern medicine."

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #171

                                      @George-K

                                      Multiply both those number by 4 and you’ll have a fairly accurate number. Approaching the same numbers the Pentagon and Brits are estimating.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                                        @George-K

                                        Multiply both those number by 4 and you’ll have a fairly accurate number. Approaching the same numbers the Pentagon and Brits are estimating.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #172

                                        @Renauda I saw a story (I think it was on Forbes) that the Ukrainians have more, yes MORE, tanks now than they did at the beginning of the "special mission." Despite their losses, they have captured more abandoned tanks than they have lost. I think Forbes said they are up 49 tanks overall.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #173

                                          Interesting thread.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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