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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #149

    The sinking of this ship is a HUGE deal.

    1. It's a supply ship and was docked at the port of one of the first cities to fall in the early days of the war.
    2. Secondary explosions destroyed a fuel dump and munitions dump.
    3. Getting that boat out of the way for another supply ship will be a major undertaking.
    4. Other ships that were damaged will need extensive repairs.
    5. The Ukrainians are silent on how they did it. Speculation runs from ballistic missile attach, to a commando raid. Keep the Russians guessing is the strategy.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

      More here from the NYT:

      Fascinating video and audio:

      https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

      The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

      CopperC Offline
      CopperC Offline
      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #150

      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

      The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

      racists

      They must be condemned

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      • CopperC Offline
        CopperC Offline
        Copper
        wrote on last edited by
        #151

        This is one of Russia's most capable Electronic Warfare Systems and potentially an intelligence goldmine.

        I guess it fell off the back of a truck. Did we send some Chicago gangsters over there to help?

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        • George KG George K

          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

          More here from the NYT:

          Fascinating video and audio:

          https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

          The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

          LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins DadL Offline
          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #152

          @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

          More here from the NYT:

          Fascinating video and audio:

          https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

          The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

          Well, there goes all of Ukraine’s support.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @jon-nyc said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Fun thread to read. Let’s hope it’s true.

            More here from the NYT:

            Fascinating video and audio:

            https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/europe/100000008266864/russia-army-radio-makariv.html?smid=tw-share

            The best part is where a Ukrainian jammer whistles "Dixie..."

            Well, there goes all of Ukraine’s support.

            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
            #153

            @LuFins-Dad

            It’s ok, it’s psyops. Since Russia considers them part of the same nation, a Traitor’s theme fucks with their heads.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #154

              Ugh.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Ugh.

                George KG Offline
                George KG Offline
                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #155

                @jon-nyc I saw that yesterday. It's clearly a residential area of no military value, other than being a potential spot for snipers.

                The White House actually said "War Crimes" yesterday.

                The link from the New York Times I posted earlier talks about Russian soldiers "clearing" residential areas.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #156

                  Dresden.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • KlausK Online
                    KlausK Online
                    Klaus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #157

                    I don't think it is comparable yet to Hamburg or Dresden or London in WW2, which were bombed over extended periods of time and where the destruction was more or less total. But it is of course pretty bad.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #158

                      I work with a guy who's wife has twin sons of military age in Mariupol. He managed to get the older folks out, but they're staying...

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        I work with a guy who's wife has twin sons of military age in Mariupol. He managed to get the older folks out, but they're staying...

                        RenaudaR Offline
                        RenaudaR Offline
                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #159

                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        I can’t imagine the anxiety.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #160

                          A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                          RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            A joke from Moscow: "According to Putin the special military operation is really a conflict btw Russia and NATO about World dominance. Whats the situation now?" "Russia has lost 15000 troops, 6 generals, 500 tanks, 3 ships, 100 planes and 1000 trucks. NATO hasn't arrived yet."

                            RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #161

                            @jon-nyc 😂

                            That sound exactly like the Radio Yerevan jokes that circulated over there during Soviet times.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • CopperC Offline
                              CopperC Offline
                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #162

                              Do you like to eat?

                              Maybe Russia isn't so evil.

                              ca772aba-96d2-4fd8-a5ca-7101023f1ad0-image.png

                              https://www.foxnews.com/

                              George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                              • CopperC Copper

                                Do you like to eat?

                                Maybe Russia isn't so evil.

                                ca772aba-96d2-4fd8-a5ca-7101023f1ad0-image.png

                                https://www.foxnews.com/

                                George KG Offline
                                George KG Offline
                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by George K
                                #163

                                @Copper

                                image.jpeg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • CopperC Offline
                                  CopperC Offline
                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #164

                                  Maybe I'll head over to the supermarket tomorrow to watch the panic.

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                                  • George KG Offline
                                    George KG Offline
                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #165

                                    Duds:

                                    Russian missiles in Ukraine have failure rate of up to 60%, U.S. officials say

                                    Russian precision-guided missiles are failing up to 60% of the time in Ukraine, three U.S. officials with knowledge of intelligence on the issue told Reuters, a possible explanation for the poor progress of Russia's invasion.

                                    Since President Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, Russia has failed to achieve basic objectives such as neutralizing Ukraine's air force despite a vastly larger armed forces.

                                    The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the information, did not provide evidence to support the assessment and did not disclose what precisely was driving high Russian missile failure rates.

                                    Reuters was unable to independently verify the figures.

                                    Though Reuters could not determine what a standard failure rate would be for air-launched cruise missiles, two experts interviewed by Reuters said any failure rate of 20% and above would be considered high.

                                    U.S. defense officials told reporters this week that the Pentagon assesses that Russia has launched more than 1,100 missiles of all kinds since the war began. The U.S. officials have so far not said how many of those hit their targets and how many failed to do so.

                                    Citing U.S. intelligence, three U.S. officials said the United States estimated that Russia's failure rate varied day-to-day, depended on the type of missile being launched, and could sometimes exceed 50%. Two of them said it reached as high as 60%.

                                    One of the officials said the intelligence showed that Russia's air-launched cruise missiles had a failure rate in the 20% to 60% range, depending on the day.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG Offline
                                      George KG Offline
                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #166

                                      That ship that was blown up?

                                      It appears on Russian TV "News" two days earlier:

                                      Link to video

                                      Best comment: "This ship is so sophisticated. Allegedly it can also become a submarine."

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #167

                                        It's well on its way to doing so.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #168

                                          Updated with some new calculations - on the far right is a column showing the relative losses of Ukrainian vs Russian equipment.

                                          Also losses per day since March 16.

                                          Screen Shot 2022-03-25 at 9.47.51 AM.png

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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