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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1508

    Agreed. We have to stand fast here, regardless of duration. Otherwise we leave it that states can advance through military means.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by
      #1509

      Here’s link I came across a couple of weeks back on the comparative relevance of the A-10 and SU-25 to the Ukrainian theatre at this time

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/theaviationgeekclub.com/su-25-vs-a-10-heres-why-the-frogfoot-might-be-better-suited-than-the-warthog-for-cas/

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #1510

        Interesting. I wonder how much they are actually using them right now.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #1511

          GROM

          https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/evidence-of-russia-using-grom-standoff-weapons-in-ukraine-emerges

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            Here’s link I came across a couple of weeks back on the comparative relevance of the A-10 and SU-25 to the Ukrainian theatre at this time

            https://www.google.com/amp/s/theaviationgeekclub.com/su-25-vs-a-10-heres-why-the-frogfoot-might-be-better-suited-than-the-warthog-for-cas/

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #1512

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Here’s link I came across a couple of weeks back on the comparative relevance of the A-10 and SU-25 to the Ukrainian theatre at this time

            https://www.google.com/amp/s/theaviationgeekclub.com/su-25-vs-a-10-heres-why-the-frogfoot-might-be-better-suited-than-the-warthog-for-cas/

            Old argument. Back in the day, I made the argument that the U.S. should buy some Frogfoots from the Russians, plonk some new avionics in them and give them refueling capability.

            They are a very capable airframe that can operate off of truly horrendous runways.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #1513

              https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/slovak-government-send-mig-29-fighter-jets-ukraine-pm-2023-03-17/

              Good. Now, I wonder how the U.S. program is progressing that allows NATO weapons to be used on Soviet and Russian aircraft?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #1514

                Putin was indicted before Trump! Who would have guessed that? It doesn't mean a whole lot, but it does put a little more pressure on him by further harming his international stature.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/international-arrest-warrant-issued-for-vladimir-putin-but-will-the-russian-president-be-taken-away-in-cuffs/ar-AA18LfJ8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=af5a6f5c9c564939b840bf42de05bd53&ei=32

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1515

                  An offer he can't refuse

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-may-find-itself-receiving-an-offer-from-china-it-cannot-refuse/ar-AA18N2B9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=062e341c21ec47eca9cfcaebb42f54fa&ei=27

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    An offer he can't refuse

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-may-find-itself-receiving-an-offer-from-china-it-cannot-refuse/ar-AA18N2B9?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=062e341c21ec47eca9cfcaebb42f54fa&ei=27

                    RenaudaR Offline
                    RenaudaR Offline
                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #1516

                    @Mik

                    Indeed it will be interesting to see what comes out of that summit next week, other than the usual overwrought theatre.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by George K
                      #1517

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1518

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          RenaudaR Offline
                          RenaudaR Offline
                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1519

                          @George-K

                          Theatre of the perverse.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1520

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1521

                              Could be behind the reports of him looking puffy.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                George K
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                                #1522

                                It's been said that the configuration of one's ears as unique as a fingerprint. Look at #1 and #2. They are the same person, based on the shape of the ear. I can't tell about #3. But, are they Putin? I dunno.

                                ETA: AHA!

                                https://news.yahoo.com/putin-using-body-double-listen-035201450.html

                                https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-body-double-mystery-finally-29121981

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1523

                                  Bluster and fear is all he's got left.

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-threatens-to-blow-up-icc-with-hypersonic-missile/ar-AA18QozP?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=eca961c8ad17487fa775fc6ced26b38c&ei=13

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1524

                                    As expected it was a whole lot of nothing other than more trouble down the road:

                                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/03/21/as-xi-visits-putin-allies-trumpet-new-era-but-offer-little-substance-a80559

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1525

                                      The only thing at all significant is the implication that if the parties don't come to a political settlement China will start providing lethal aid.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        The only thing at all significant is the implication that if the parties don't come to a political settlement China will start providing lethal aid.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
                                        RenaudaR Offline
                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1526

                                        @Mik

                                        Like I said, more trouble down the road.

                                        There ain’t going to be a settlement.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                                          #1527

                                          Not while Russian troops are on Crimean soil.

                                          Chinese weaponry might make things uglier, but Russia still doesn't have an army worth a tinker's damn.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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