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    George K
    wrote on 1 Jan 2023, 14:26 last edited by George K 1 Jan 2023, 14:26
    #1339

    Santa delivers some gifts in Ukraine.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 1 Jan 2023, 19:46 last edited by
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      See in particular the embedded video from the BBC’s Moscow correspondent:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64138731

      Elbows up!

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        George K
        wrote on 2 Jan 2023, 02:05 last edited by George K 1 Feb 2023, 02:08
        #1341

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 2 Jan 2023, 16:26 last edited by
          #1342

          George Friedman: The State of Play in Ukraine

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 14:06 last edited by
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            Putin orders weekend truce in Ukraine

            Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday ordered his armed forces to observe a unilateral 36-hour cease-fire in Ukraine this weekend for the Orthodox Christmas holiday, the first such sweeping truce move in the nearly 11-month-old war. Kyiv indicated it wouldn’t follow suit.

            Putin did not appear to condition his cease-fire order on Ukraine’s acceptance, and it wasn’t clear whether hostilities would actually pause on the 1,100-kilometer (684-mile) front line or elsewhere. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismissed the Russian move as playing for time to regroup its invasion forces and prepare additional attacks.

            At various points during the war that began Feb. 24, Russian authorities have ordered limited, local truces to allow civilian evacuations or other humanitarian purposes. Thursday’s order was the first time Putin has directed his troops to observe a cease-fire throughout Ukraine.

            “Based on the fact that a large number of citizens professing Orthodoxy live in the combat areas, we call on the Ukrainian side to declare a cease-fire and give them the opportunity to attend services on Christmas Eve, as well as on the Day of the Nativity of Christ,” Putin’s order said.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 8 Jan 2023, 14:18 last edited by
              #1344

              The Wagner "Doctor" captured.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 8 Jan 2023, 14:35 last edited by
                #1345

                In case y'all didn't see:

                https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/21393/amx-10

                BTW, the 105 gun is not compatible with NATO 105mm.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 11 Jan 2023, 16:42 last edited by
                  #1346

                  Fair weather friendship or mortgage holder?

                  https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/10/beijing-fears-russia-becoming-minor-power-under-crazy-putin-ft-a79911

                  Elbows up!

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                  • R Renauda
                    11 Jan 2023, 16:42

                    Fair weather friendship or mortgage holder?

                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/10/beijing-fears-russia-becoming-minor-power-under-crazy-putin-ft-a79911

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 11 Jan 2023, 19:52 last edited by
                    #1347

                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Fair weather friendship or mortgage holder?

                    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/10/beijing-fears-russia-becoming-minor-power-under-crazy-putin-ft-a79911

                    So where does this debacle place Russia in terms of influence and power?

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      11 Jan 2023, 19:52

                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Fair weather friendship or mortgage holder?

                      https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/10/beijing-fears-russia-becoming-minor-power-under-crazy-putin-ft-a79911

                      So where does this debacle place Russia in terms of influence and power?

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 11 Jan 2023, 20:05 last edited by
                      #1348

                      @LuFins-Dad

                      Right where it is. A permanent member of the UN Security Council with a severe inferiority complex.

                      Other than that, not much else.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • R Renauda
                        8 Oct 2022, 21:07

                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

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                        Interesting choice, Sergei Surovikin. An Air Force General no less.

                        Bio: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Surovikin

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                        George K
                        wrote on 11 Jan 2023, 22:40 last edited by
                        #1349

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Interesting choice, Sergei Surovikin. An Air Force General no less.

                        Bio: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Surovikin

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                        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-war-russia-names-valery-gerasimov-new-commander-replaces-sergei-surovikin-3-months/

                        Russia has again replaced its military commander in Ukraine, putting army chief Valery Gerasimov in charge of its forces in the conflict, the defense ministry said Wednesday.

                        "Army General Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian armed forces, has been appointed Commander of the Joint Grouping of Troops (Forces)," the ministry said.

                        Sergei Surovikin, the commander of Russia's forces in Ukraine for the past three months, will become Gerasimov's deputy, the ministry said. Surovikin, lionized by Russia's pro-Kremlin press as "General Armageddon," had previously been the commander of Russia's Air Force.

                        Meanwhile, Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhaylo Podolyak said Wednesday that Ukraine will be able to win the war in 2023 if it receives more Western weapons, particularly long-range missiles and heavy tanks.

                        Otherwise, the war will grind on "for decades," Podolyak told AFP, pointing out that the "bloodiest" fighting was currently taking place in eastern Ukraine in Bakhmut and Soledar.

                        "Only missiles with a range of more than 100 kilometers will allow us to significantly accelerate the de-occupation of our territories," he told AFP in an interview.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 14 Jan 2023, 21:49 last edited by
                          #1350

                          Beavers assisting in defence of Ukraine:

                          https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-credits-local-beavers-unwittingly-113757702.html

                          Am thinking Canada can send them more beavers if the Russians start targeting their dams.

                          Elbows up!

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 14 Jan 2023, 22:16 last edited by
                            #1351

                            Everybody likes a little beaver.

                            Well, maybe not Russians.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 16 Jan 2023, 15:45 last edited by
                              #1352

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/testimony-of-a-russian-deserter-if-putin-dies-tomorrow-the-war-is-over/ar-AA16oQSA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=23205568af604347a1aacf2f5699a441

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 16 Jan 2023, 23:03 last edited by Renauda
                                #1353

                                Wait, there’s more…

                                And now a defector from the Wagner Mob:

                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64296979

                                Elbows up!

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                                • R Renauda
                                  16 Jan 2023, 23:03

                                  Wait, there’s more…

                                  And now a defector from the Wagner Mob:

                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64296979

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 00:46 last edited by
                                  #1354

                                  @Renauda

                                  I’ll take “How do you know when you are well and truly fucked” for $1000.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 15:11 last edited by
                                    #1355

                                    On the surface this might indicate that reality is beginning to sink in to Russian minds. I don’t believe it. Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation. The speaker is critical of the execution of the military tactics but is careful to stay clear of criticising the reasons and assumptions that led to the war itself.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      17 Jan 2023, 15:11

                                      On the surface this might indicate that reality is beginning to sink in to Russian minds. I don’t believe it. Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation. The speaker is critical of the execution of the military tactics but is careful to stay clear of criticising the reasons and assumptions that led to the war itself.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 15:12 last edited by
                                      #1356

                                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                                      A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • G George K
                                        17 Jan 2023, 15:12

                                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                                        A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 15:58 last edited by
                                        #1357

                                        @George-K

                                        Warning balloon.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • G George K
                                          17 Jan 2023, 15:12

                                          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                          Rather this is a choreographed balloon in preparation of full mobilisation

                                          A "trial balloon," or a "warning balloon?"

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 17 Jan 2023, 22:50 last edited by
                                          #1358

                                          @George-K

                                          It is a warning balloon in the sense that it appears that the Kremlin propagandists are attempting to turn the special military operation into a new Sacred War and prepping the nation for a full mobilisation.

                                          Elbows up!

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