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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1320

    Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-brain-and-the-ukraine-disaster-what-does-the-russian-leader-really-want/ar-AA15yKSa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=edc53d35afb94bc18bc016c6b84983f5

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-brain-and-the-ukraine-disaster-what-does-the-russian-leader-really-want/ar-AA15yKSa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=edc53d35afb94bc18bc016c6b84983f5

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #1321

      @Mik

      You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

      Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @Mik

        You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

        Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

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        xenon
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        #1322

        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @Mik

        You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

        Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

        “You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”

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        • X xenon

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Mik

          You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

          Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

          “You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #1323

          @xenon

          The most common word in the Kremlin-speak this past year or so has become провокация (provokatsiya). It needs no translation. A was common Soviet term used throughout the Cold War against the West as well. It is supposed to help to reinforce the blameless innocence of the Russian state in its peace loving aggressive foreign policy and militarism.

          Elbows up!

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1324

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #1325

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #1326

                Not sure about any these outcomes in 2023:

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63987113

                Still, I would wager any one of them is more plausible than a single one of Medvedev’s predictions George posted in the other thread.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  Not sure about any these outcomes in 2023:

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63987113

                  Still, I would wager any one of them is more plausible than a single one of Medvedev’s predictions George posted in the other thread.

                  MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1327

                  @Renauda

                  I don’t either, but I sure like the predictions of retaking Crimea. From their lips to God’s ear.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    @Renauda

                    I don’t either, but I sure like the predictions of retaking Crimea. From their lips to God’s ear.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1328

                    @Mik

                    Yes, it would be just desserts for the Kremlin.

                    Particularly in light of statements made by Lavrov and Peskov the last 24 hours:

                    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/12/27/ukraine-pitches-peace-conference-even-as-russia-issues-threat

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1329

                      Why am I not surprised?

                      "We fight with our brains. They fight with numbers. Because their resources --we're not revealing some secret here -- are much greater than ours," he said.

                      In some locations, including in Bakhmut, photographs and videos posted by military bloggers and even the soldiers themselves point to outdated battlefield tactics that are reminiscent of World War-I trench warfare, in which waves of infantrymen advance across open fields and try to storm enemy trenches, only to be mowed down by gunfire.

                      "They just push and shove their way through. And a lot of them die. Because they have no tactics, nothing of the sort," another soldier said. "They just go like meat. There were some cases when the infantry said that they went in without any [armed vehicles], or without machine guns."

                      Full story:

                      https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-kreminna-battle-recapture-russia-supply-lines/32197165.html

                      Elbows up!

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1330

                        Darth Putin posts another W.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1331

                          Meanwhile Catherine II goes away - again.

                          Thread:

                          https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1608367805170339842.html

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1332

                            Maybe the Russians should consider painting invasion stripes on their aircraft:

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1333

                              Rest in pieces.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • RenaudaR Renauda

                                Maybe the Russians should consider painting invasion stripes on their aircraft:

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1334

                                @Renauda they need to hone their IFF software.

                                Maybe some new chips will fix that.

                                Oh...wait...

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1335

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1336

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by George K
                                      #1337

                                      Actors:

                                      More:

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1338

                                        She's everywhere...

                                        She's a soldier, a sailor, a devout Christian, a flight attendant,

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by George K
                                          #1339

                                          Santa delivers some gifts in Ukraine.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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