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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @Mik

    You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

    Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

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    #1322

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Mik

    You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

    Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

    “You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”

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      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Mik

      You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

      Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

      “You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”

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      Renauda
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      #1323

      @xenon

      The most common word in the Kremlin-speak this past year or so has become провокация (provokatsiya). It needs no translation. A was common Soviet term used throughout the Cold War against the West as well. It is supposed to help to reinforce the blameless innocence of the Russian state in its peace loving aggressive foreign policy and militarism.

      Elbows up!

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        George K
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
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          #1325

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Renauda
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            #1326

            Not sure about any these outcomes in 2023:

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63987113

            Still, I would wager any one of them is more plausible than a single one of Medvedev’s predictions George posted in the other thread.

            Elbows up!

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            • RenaudaR Renauda

              Not sure about any these outcomes in 2023:

              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63987113

              Still, I would wager any one of them is more plausible than a single one of Medvedev’s predictions George posted in the other thread.

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              #1327

              @Renauda

              I don’t either, but I sure like the predictions of retaking Crimea. From their lips to God’s ear.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                @Renauda

                I don’t either, but I sure like the predictions of retaking Crimea. From their lips to God’s ear.

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                @Mik

                Yes, it would be just desserts for the Kremlin.

                Particularly in light of statements made by Lavrov and Peskov the last 24 hours:

                https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/12/27/ukraine-pitches-peace-conference-even-as-russia-issues-threat

                Elbows up!

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                  #1329

                  Why am I not surprised?

                  "We fight with our brains. They fight with numbers. Because their resources --we're not revealing some secret here -- are much greater than ours," he said.

                  In some locations, including in Bakhmut, photographs and videos posted by military bloggers and even the soldiers themselves point to outdated battlefield tactics that are reminiscent of World War-I trench warfare, in which waves of infantrymen advance across open fields and try to storm enemy trenches, only to be mowed down by gunfire.

                  "They just push and shove their way through. And a lot of them die. Because they have no tactics, nothing of the sort," another soldier said. "They just go like meat. There were some cases when the infantry said that they went in without any [armed vehicles], or without machine guns."

                  Full story:

                  https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-kreminna-battle-recapture-russia-supply-lines/32197165.html

                  Elbows up!

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #1330

                    Darth Putin posts another W.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      George K
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                      Meanwhile Catherine II goes away - again.

                      Thread:

                      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1608367805170339842.html

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Renauda
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                        #1332

                        Maybe the Russians should consider painting invasion stripes on their aircraft:

                        Elbows up!

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                          Rest in pieces.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            Maybe the Russians should consider painting invasion stripes on their aircraft:

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                            #1334

                            @Renauda they need to hone their IFF software.

                            Maybe some new chips will fix that.

                            Oh...wait...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              #1335

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                George K
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                                #1336

                                @jon-nyc

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
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                                  #1337

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
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                                    #1338

                                    She's everywhere...

                                    She's a soldier, a sailor, a devout Christian, a flight attendant,

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by George K
                                      #1339

                                      Santa delivers some gifts in Ukraine.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Renauda
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                                        #1340

                                        See in particular the embedded video from the BBC’s Moscow correspondent:

                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64138731

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by George K
                                          #1341

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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