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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1319

    His speech was fine though. Reaching out to the American people was smart. I do hope the reluctant incoming GOP congress critters get a clue as to how important this really is.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #1320

      Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-brain-and-the-ukraine-disaster-what-does-the-russian-leader-really-want/ar-AA15yKSa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=edc53d35afb94bc18bc016c6b84983f5

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Interesting piece on Putin and the real situation. Wordier than it needs to be, but worth it, I think.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-brain-and-the-ukraine-disaster-what-does-the-russian-leader-really-want/ar-AA15yKSa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=edc53d35afb94bc18bc016c6b84983f5

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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #1321

        @Mik

        You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

        Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

        Elbows up!

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          @Mik

          You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

          Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

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          xenon
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          #1322

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Mik

          You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

          Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

          “You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”

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          • X xenon

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Mik

            You’re right about wordiness and there’s also a lot of unnecessary anti-Trump squelch that detracts from the good points being presented.

            Interesting to read the Kremlin’s reaction to Zelenskyi’s visit and speech. Once again it is denying any responsibility for its ongoing aggression and placing the blame entirely in the US and NATO. I also it is playing up the delivery of the Patriot system. Makes sense as 99.9% of Russians have no clue that it is a purely defensive weapon against incoming missiles.

            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64066584

            “You’re forcing our hand by shooting down all the missiles we’re launching at you”

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            Renauda
            wrote on last edited by Renauda
            #1323

            @xenon

            The most common word in the Kremlin-speak this past year or so has become провокация (provokatsiya). It needs no translation. A was common Soviet term used throughout the Cold War against the West as well. It is supposed to help to reinforce the blameless innocence of the Russian state in its peace loving aggressive foreign policy and militarism.

            Elbows up!

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #1324

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #1325

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #1326

                  Not sure about any these outcomes in 2023:

                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63987113

                  Still, I would wager any one of them is more plausible than a single one of Medvedev’s predictions George posted in the other thread.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    Not sure about any these outcomes in 2023:

                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63987113

                    Still, I would wager any one of them is more plausible than a single one of Medvedev’s predictions George posted in the other thread.

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1327

                    @Renauda

                    I don’t either, but I sure like the predictions of retaking Crimea. From their lips to God’s ear.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @Renauda

                      I don’t either, but I sure like the predictions of retaking Crimea. From their lips to God’s ear.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1328

                      @Mik

                      Yes, it would be just desserts for the Kremlin.

                      Particularly in light of statements made by Lavrov and Peskov the last 24 hours:

                      https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/12/27/ukraine-pitches-peace-conference-even-as-russia-issues-threat

                      Elbows up!

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1329

                        Why am I not surprised?

                        "We fight with our brains. They fight with numbers. Because their resources --we're not revealing some secret here -- are much greater than ours," he said.

                        In some locations, including in Bakhmut, photographs and videos posted by military bloggers and even the soldiers themselves point to outdated battlefield tactics that are reminiscent of World War-I trench warfare, in which waves of infantrymen advance across open fields and try to storm enemy trenches, only to be mowed down by gunfire.

                        "They just push and shove their way through. And a lot of them die. Because they have no tactics, nothing of the sort," another soldier said. "They just go like meat. There were some cases when the infantry said that they went in without any [armed vehicles], or without machine guns."

                        Full story:

                        https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-kreminna-battle-recapture-russia-supply-lines/32197165.html

                        Elbows up!

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1330

                          Darth Putin posts another W.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1331

                            Meanwhile Catherine II goes away - again.

                            Thread:

                            https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1608367805170339842.html

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1332

                              Maybe the Russians should consider painting invasion stripes on their aircraft:

                              Elbows up!

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1333

                                Rest in pieces.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  Maybe the Russians should consider painting invasion stripes on their aircraft:

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1334

                                  @Renauda they need to hone their IFF software.

                                  Maybe some new chips will fix that.

                                  Oh...wait...

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1335

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1336

                                      @jon-nyc

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by George K
                                        #1337

                                        Actors:

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1338

                                          She's everywhere...

                                          She's a soldier, a sailor, a devout Christian, a flight attendant,

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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